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FiMfiction Thread: Now with 12.1% more refugees! Anonymous 04/15/2025 (Tue) 17:41:17 No. 19687
Come one and all to the meta-writefag and help raise the quality of MLP fanfiction! Featuring: An Exodus to (or away from) the promised land! ITT: Terry Pratchett is deep inside anon's "writing", the proper use of footnotes is to make ridiculous metaphors, wholesome futa porn getting featured, Mossad is actually /yandere/, optional foreskin-wound-sucking, yet more degenerate fetishists, semantics of dickmares, Death Note but better, the plague of linguistic descriptivism, self-insert OCs as alternatives to HiE, Cadence: alicorn princess of self-love, and pushing back in the circlejerk (unf)! >/fimfic/ Secret Book Club The one hundred and eighth book is The Luna Cypher: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/175385/the-luna-cypher If (You) want to join in the discussion, read up to chapter 15, Unpleasant Surprises, by Sunday, April 20. >Recommended stories: Tired of authors crossing over a dozen IPs? Fed up with downer shipping? Well, we've compiled the best of the worst in order to bring you our absolute average! New Starter Kit - http://mlpficreviews.org.uk/starter/ Old Starter Kit - http://i.imgur.com/vuTA7EN.png >Common fic abbreviations used by the thread: https://ponepaste.org/7317 >A list of reviews made by the Anons in this thread: http://www.mlpficreviews.org.uk Use the commands ">review <story link>" and ">discuss <story link>" to add reviews to a story. Userscript for extra features: https://ponepaste.org/8619 >An in-depth writing guide for beginners: https://eznguide.neocities.org/ >Can you pre-read my story? Post it on Google Docs or HackMD with comments enabled and give us a link. >Additional material for authors: Rhorse's Horse Behavioral Notes - https://ponepaste.org/932 Politics and the English Language - https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/ 1911 Walter Baker's Hot Chocolate - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAueNTXpn1E Vhatug's tips for anatomically correct clop - https://poneb.in/g4VpEg4f Setting a story in motion - https://youtu.be/ufO8LbwTdu0 Taking criticism - https://youtu.be/-v4R2ZcxPlA >Various reviews and riffs: Fillyanon's Bookshelf - https://ponepaste.org/5555 Notkickass222urmom's Reviews - https://pastebin.com/u/notkickass222urmom IHeartShinzakura's Reviews - https://ponepaste.org/user/IHeartShinzakura Appleanon reads fics - https://poneb.in/wmGX7FPm Deluxe Big Master Review List - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z9Bz7UnEbxo-svlXa2tV49PJkP-yFuR7pRXiBUn-IeU A Guide to Rational Fics - https://files.catbox.moe/3jzrfm.png The Royal Canterlot Library's Top 16 Fanfics - https://royalcanterlotlibrary.net/top16/ Previous Thread: >>/mlp/42137739
>>42141900 Read "Besides the Will of Evil".
>>19695 Sell it to me.
>>19702 >he doesn't know
>>19702 How much money you got on you?
The HIE genre is not for the faint of heart. It’s not just about sending humans into the world of Equestria; it’s about transcending the boundaries of fiction itself. Just as you wouldn't expect to stumble upon a Shakespearean play in a high school drama class, or find the nuances of a Tolstoy novel in a community book club, you simply cannot expect a mere fanfic writer to grasp and master the profound depths and soul-stirring complexities of the HIE genre. It's the apex of storytelling. Too intricate, too delicate, too soulful for most to comprehend, let alone capture in writing. The problem isn’t with the genre. The issue lies in its towering grandeur, which is just too monumental for the average writer. We don't lack good HIE stories; we lack the literary giants to pen them.
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>>19687 Wow it's like nothing even happened. Is the written word truly eternal?
>>19817 >Is the written word truly eternal? Nopony tell him about the inevitable decay of all material things.
>>19823 Things don't have to last forever. They just have to outlast the people you hate.
How do I learn to write?
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>>19905 First, you read something other than shitposts for once
>>19905 You can't, you have to be born with the innate talent to write.
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>>19905 By writing and reading a lot.
Nooooooo, my flag, noooooooo!
>>20028 K or J?
I've had an AU story I wanted to do for ages but I spent all that time thinking about the setting and not the plot, how do you defeat Worldbuilder's Disease? All I've done til now is single-chapter shorts.
>>19932 Okay how do I learn that
>>20083 You start writing and keep writing until you have a finished thing you can show others, so they can tell you how it sucks. The you repeat that a few times over. Ideally you eventually reach the understanding that worldbuilding is secondary to having a good story and learn to focus on the right things.
This UI fucking sucks.
>>20341 There are some convenient features, but I hate the fact that refresh is auto-checked.
I remember there being a shitpost fic on Fimfiction about a certain mustached individual stealing Scootaloo's scooter, but I can't seem to find it anymore.
>>20418 You can uncheck it. What I hate is the lack of feedback if there are no updates when you refresh.
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I'm gonna miss that shithole like you wouldn't believe.
>>20577 >tfw I have been immortalized in a screencap
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Has anyone here read any books that they think might have improved their writing, if so can you drop some recommendations? Here's some random fics I enjoyed so I'm not just begging. https://www.fimfiction.net/story/403424/feline-equine-relations-or-how-to-kidnap-a-princess-of-equestria https://www.fimfiction.net/story/249782/magical-mystery-oops https://www.fimfiction.net/story/496259/towed-tempestuous
>>21040 In terms of ponyfics, unironically FiMC
>>21064 He said books, not fics. CiG might have better prose than the average fanfiction writer, but he's not excellent in an absolute sense. Really good stylists are writers like Austen, Flaubert, Dickens, Joyce, Conrad, Proust, Faulkner, Hemingway, Nabokov, Baldwin, Marquez, and McCarthy. I'm not going to write their first names because if you don't already know who they are, then you're an illiterate cretin.
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>>21224 Thanks for clarifying to them about the book thing, I've already seen a few recommendations elsewhere such as: >Bird by Bird >The Anatomy of Story: 22 Steps to Becoming a Master Storyteller Creating Character Arcs: The >Masterful Author's Guide to Uniting Story Structure (Helping Writers Become Authors) Part of me thinks I don't even need these as I can come up with great stories, arcs, and conversations in my head already, but I'm not really sure I know how to start a story or do filler all that well.
>>21224 Go back. >>21040 Yes but most weren't in English and a translation wouldn't work. However one of the strongest pieces of advice I've ever found was learning to understand the rhythm of sentences. In general though all reading of a certain quality is good reading because it always teaches you something. But for some actual non-pony recommendations, >Watchmen Yeah, it's a comic, but it'll teach you some stuff about writing in general and about comic books specifically, and about playing to a medium's strengths. Subsequently watching the movie and understanding why it's a bad adaptation is also a good exercise. And no, it's not the squid. >The Rats in the Walls >The Colour Out of Space Lovecraft is always good but he has his problems, but for a certain kind of horror and for learning to invoke dread in the reader he's a good source. The former story isn't all too great and it's mostly remember for being the cat one, but the ending is one of the best thing he wrote. Meanwhile, Colour is universally recognised as the best thing he ever made. >A Christmas Carol I know it sounds stupid but once you read him you realise Dickens really was that guy, and he got away with bloating his novels because he really was that good at writing, and this one's a classic for a reason that's both a very simple story as a whole but an extremely strongly written one at each moment, and one you can read a lot deeper in if you want to. >A Farewell to Arms (or most things Hemingway) OMatS might be the better book and you should read that too but this one specifically has a precise approach towards the ending of aligning the reader's and protagonist's feelings that I find is something you should familiarise yourself with as a writer.
Place your bets. Will the club be held here or not?
>>21359 Depends if any of the participants are here. Guess we'll just have to talk about other fics if not
>>21359 Depends on if hiro gets his shit together
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>>21613 Not like he's given a shit for the past 10 years. I guess his (relative) negligence is better than malice if the way he was ousted from 2chan and fucked 2channel is any indication.
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>>21359 We could post the discussion anchor here and 4k character limit is sweet, but at least two of last week's posters are literal generalfags so I doubt they came here when the walls of Jericho collapsed. Maybe the site will be back up by then. While >>21733 is right that Hiro has a history of being evil, 4chan being down loses him a lot of money.
>>21819 We'd also have sound on regular 4chan if more people used the 4chan External Sounds script. It's common on many other boards but not /mlp/, and for sound webms to be worth the effort, it needs reasonable user adoption.
>>21827 Careful, you'll get Fae's attention.
>>21359 I'm here if we do. I was the random bugflag.
>>21849 I would never adopt a user.
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42nd for best duo! Enjoy this conveniently packaged Tuna: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/175385/the-luna-cypher
Wanna move to poner?
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>>42112376 I finished The Rariad, or at least the portion of it I enjoyed. The plan to skim Gaia fell apart pretty quickly, partly because of how it's written, but mostly because of how much more fun the story became once Trixie started the rescue mission. I read up to the part where Crysis was saved, and I don't have much more to say about the story besides that. The various adventures that the crew got up to on their way to Sparta were pretty engaging, especially Apollo's forsaken village. It had good vibes from 9DD. Alnyxandria was terribly named, but the diversion was a lot of fun, especially exploring the consequences of Trixie being undead besides just the constantly repeated descriptions of her being sliced to ribbons for edge. >>21359 Betting here.
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>>21359 Will we namefag in lieu of flags, or will we go truly Anonymous(tm)? I will cum inside Rarity at 2:48 a.m.
>>21912 >take a look >Stripped >EQG No. Also, the homos here would be allowed to post anthros and futas. So double no.
>>21943 A price worth paying to stave off the tunafag.
>>21912 Very firm no from me. It's as if they looked at all the possible decision points (content and design) just to make the wrong choices on purpose.
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>>21935 >Will we namefag yes we can
>>21245 >Go back. That phrase feels very different now that we're all refugees. Also, fuck you. >rhythm This is very good advice. >Watchmen Anon didn't say whether he wants to write traditional prose or write comics, but if it's the former, I feel like a comic book is an inefficient way for Anon to educate himself. Watchmen isn't a bad suggestion, but I'd have to make a pretty long list before I thought it was worth putting on (assuming I'm right about Anon's goals). >Lovecraft Solid horror, but if Anon isn't interested in the horror genre then I don't think he'll get much out of Lovecraft. >Dickens >Hemingway Can't go wrong with either of them.
>>21912 No. NHNB has its downsides, but it seems to be the best available. I looked at 8chan.moe, but they have two actual hardcore zoophile threads right now (one straight, one gay) with nothing even spoilered. I'm not usually paranoid about glowies, but that's too much for me.
>>21953 Maybe "anon" should say what he wants instead of vagueposting. Also, he asked for stuff that influenced us specifically, not just general recommendations.
>>21960 I'm pretty sure this thread is currently more active than the entirety of 8chan's mlp was yesterday.
>>19687 I just want to say I've written more since 4chan went down than in the rest of April. And March. And ..
>>22034 Uh huh. And how much is "more" in this case?
>>22046 About a page, so far.
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>>19687 >fimfic general survived Thank God, for a second there I thought I'd have to actually write something.
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>>21960 >"8chan.moe has what?" >check it out due to morbid curiosity >see a man stick a lollipop into a ponut Never again
>>22127 Did he lick it afterwrds, or did he let the onut have it?
Kassaz, why are you such an EQGfag?
>>22443 He loves his fetish more than he loves ponies.
>>21935 Flags were always the most cancerous, circlejerkly and useless part of the bookclub. It's good they are gone for now.
>>22443 I've only written two humanized stories, with plans for two or three more, and I commission some artwork about them. Writing about humans is different, and artwork about them is also delightfully different. My first humanized story about Pinkie Pie was based on artwork by an old acquaintance, Forfun41/Funble, which inspired me. I didn't develop a taste for the Dazzlings until I kept seeing his artwork with them, and decided they did in fact have nice designs. I usually say it feels like most of the effort in the second EqG film went into their designs. I haven't watched anything past the first two films, and don't give a shit about any of the later characters. My second humanized or EqG story involved a fantasy I paid someone to realize, and I decided to write about it. That's usually how it goes: I have some scenes in mind and then write a story to include them, but this is obvious. The overwhelming majority of my stories are purely pony pregnancy, without a green human named Anonymous either, and that won't change.
>>22488 Okay fishfucker.
this seems like the best place to ask a retarded question, can you search more than one tag at a time on ponepaste
>>22497 This is not the Ponepaste general. Also I don't think you can even search properly for a single tag.
>>22506 >This is not the Ponepaste general. I just remembered that the greentext general was about to be revived on /mlp/. I guess that won't be happening anytime soon, lol.
>>22522 Good.
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>>22537 >smiling as pony creativity gets quashed Evil.
>>22753 Learn to write proper horsewords, greenboy.
>>22780 Propriety is one of the last qualities I'd ascribe to this thread.
>>22780 I was going to post my prose in it regardless.
>>22979 I must ask, if you're already writing prose, why not publish on Fimfiction? However tasteless your audience will be there, it'll at least exist.
>>23084 Pretty sure you're talking to Kassaz. He just posted on both /fimfic/ and /green/.
>>23090 This is correct.
>Yet another fucking Celestia morality debate in the fic's comments
>>23174 Sometimes I'm happy my fic wasn't more popular.
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>>23090 >my ability to differentiate thread personalities has completely atrophied after relying on flags for so long
>>23237 Skissue desu. I reliably clocked four different anons across different boards this April 1st.
>>23228 I think it's starting to get out of control.
>>23279 Just ignore them.
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>>23286 I dunno it's gotten pretty funny.
>>23435 This is what the workprint cut of the Minecraft movie feels like.
what are some good fics dealing with living as a changeling?
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>>23451 Integration. In Sheep's Clothing. A Bug on a Stick.
Is it poor form to avoid crediting your RP partner when writing something inspired by one of your sessions?
>>23514 Ask them whether they're comfortable being associated with your clopfic.
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>>23444 CHICKEN JOCKEY
>>23887 Would.
Kassaz, how do I get involved with artists and artpacks?
>>23920 Follow my wife's example and suck like there's no tomorrow.
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>>23968 ...kILL YOURSELF!!!
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>>23920 I was wondering if someone would ask. I'll explain how I traded with T72B first. I saw his artwork again; decided to look through his gallery for pregnancy, only to find none; and went to his profile to see if he accepted commissions, to see he didn't and neither did he mention trades. Despite this, I sent him a message asking if he'd like to trade with me, showing him my work and telling him I could write about what I figured he would want while also listing what I would want from him. It turned out he was interested, and everything went smoothly from there. I didn't know T72B until I asked him to trade with me, but all I had to do was ask. Art packs are much harder to enter. You need to be very familiar with the organizers, and signal your interest. I've been unable to organize a pregnancy art pack for years now, because the will just isn't there among the artists who focus on it. As an example, I know about the futa art packs, asked T72B to put in a word for me, and now I should be able to enter the next one of those. I know quite a few artists because I commission them regularly, and asking them about upcoming art packs is another way to do it. The easiest art packs for me to join are organized directly on the boards, like "Refuge" here: >>22012 Let me know if this helps, and if you'd like more advice.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/575068/this-has-nothing-to-do-with-video-games Who'd like to claim ownership of this one? I've been following along with the updates, and I'd be surprised if it wasn't written by an anon.
>>24222 GPT-ass closing line.
>>24229 What makes you say that?
>>24236 Excuse me for being polite.
>>24238 Mostly the explicit chan references throughout. Plus, a theme of alienation from arrested development and multiculturalism, but expressed through ponies, seems like a brand of tism that few other places could foster. I guess /mlp/ (or wherever its community happens to be holed up at a given time) isn't unique, but it's the first place I'd think of as an influence for this kind of fic.
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>>42069535 >fimfic2epub So it fetches the pictures alright. But it turns out it generates epubs my ereader can't read. I switched back to FFF, but of course it's entirely lost the ability to download images. >>23451 Also, everything by Phoenix_Dragon
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>>24267 >generates epubs my ereader can't read Looks like the plugin spits out epub3 files. If I remember right, you're using an old reader, so I wonder if it'll work if you use Calibre to covert it down to an epub2. The hassle may not be worth it.
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>>24324 Not just an old ereader, one of the oldest. That was good advice, though. After the epub2 conversion, all I had to fix was restoring the cover art from the Calibre generated cover and it worked. Well, it still crashes when clicking through the table of contents page that's injected into the book, but the epub-native table of contents still works fine and I can read it!
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Still waiting on the contest results.
I made it niggers, I'm finally here!
>>24478 want a medal? maybe a quick toss?
>>24493 sure
I feel like we've slowed down. Did we lose people? Were we actually less of a circlejerk before?
>>24722 Chances are that off-topic futa talk might get deleted here, so we don’t have that much to talk about.
>>24241 You're on an imageboard. Being polite is a signal that you're a newfag.
>>24722 >Did we lose people Yeah. Idk if you noticed but 4chan is fucking dead and we're on a shitty halfbooru some people don't like and many don't even know exists.
>>24442 One of the judges told me that they haven't forgotten the contest and are still working on the results. He didn't provide a timeline though.
>>24722 Of course we did. /mlp/ had around 3300 posts per day on average in 2025. This board has like 1000-1500, that's less than half the traffic, and i'd wager that only the most active posters are here and we lost most of the casual lurkers (who are always the absolute majority)
>>24742 They told everyone that with a post. I mostly wanted to post HRT doomed yuri. All in on RMA today.
>>24821 FUCKING RIGGED
>>24821 They posted that a few weeks ago. A couple of days ago, a judge told me that they're getting close to announcing. There was no timeline, but it sounded like it would be soon.
>>24846 Real "they put out a single, Act III soon" Protomen fan energy.
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https://www.fimfiction.net/story/575983/the-sun-little-fillies And fic is done. Finally, and with only minimal whining from one Daybreaker simp about the climax.
>>24852 >Protomen Now there's a name I haven't heard in a fucking decade.
>>24859 They put out a single in 2022. Act III totally soon guys.
>>24763 That 1000-1500 is still more than I thought we'd get. It's good to see that the bunker sites actually work, although with zero newfags they probably wouldn't last forever.
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>>24984 this would be hot if it wasn't for the broken horn. why are jews so into mutilation?
>>24989 Please tell me there's a desu for NHNB.
>>24989 >why are jews so into mutilation? Coping from their institutionalized infant genital mutilation?
>>19687 >If (You) want to join in the discussion, read up to chapter 15, Unpleasant Surprises, by Sunday, April 20. ok so read ch 14 and stop right?
>>25028 No. Complete chapter 15, then stop.
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>>24478 This really does feel like finding each other in a refugee camp outside some nuked-out city. >>24722 It would make perfect sense, yeah. Even on the altchans, not everyone on /mlpol/ knows about nhnb and vice versa. That's only considering the people so far gone that they can't go without ponyposting for a week.
>>25002 >they circumcise to cope with their own circumcisions And so the cycle continues...
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>>25071 I will break the cycle of penile torture starting this May.
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>>25084 same here, someday, hopefully t. American
>>25084 >>25087 I refuse to believe anyone from this thread is capable of siring an heir.
>>25089 It's a matter of money right now, honestly.
>>25089 I could but I don't wanna risk fucking it.
>>25089 Too late. I already have three kids. They got me into ponies in the first place.
>>25096 Are they hot?
>>25093 ...up, right? riiiiii-- >>25117 oh.
>>25117 No, we have air conditioning.
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Here's an interesting question (or several) for you anons. Is it worth it to write, if you never share what you've written? Is there value in beginning to write a story, only to never finish it and never publish it? Is it better to publish something unfinished and never finish it, or to simply never publish it at all?
>>25209 Finishing stories is easy though.
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>>25209 The value is to yourself, in practice at writing and to get the experience of resolving the idea into reality, evaluating its viability. That applies to scripts too, anyway. I've seen a bunch of posts more about just getting ideas out of your head, but I don't get that. >publishing Personally, I don't see the point in publishing an incomplete story. I won't read it. But I bet most authors do to get their community interactions. It's their way of taking back from the fandom.
>>25209 >Is it better to publish something unfinished and never finish it, or to simply never publish it at all? Better to publish, if what you have so far is good. The world needs more quality horsewords. Some anons like to bitch about incomplete fics, but they can just not read it if that's a problem for them. Personally, some of my favorite fics are incomplete and unlikely to ever be finished. The downside, though, is if you publish as you go, you can't edit the story as a whole or change your mind about the earlier chapters. So it is better overall if you write a full draft and edit before publishing. But if you're not sure whether you'll have the time and dedication to finish the thing, it's better to give people something incomplete to enjoy rather than nothing at all. >>25224 >The value is to yourself, in practice at writing and to get the experience of resolving the idea into reality, evaluating its viability. >That applies to scripts too, anyway. I've seen a bunch of posts more about just getting ideas out of your head, but I don't get that. I've been away from the thread for a while - have you finally written an actual fic?
>>25209 Yes, it's worth doing, both for your own entertainment and for practice and self-improvement. Whether you should publish depends on the circumstances. Do you have something you think others might enjoy? Then publish it. Is it a fragment that makes no sense without all the stuff in your head that you didn't write down? Probably not worth it. >>25221 It's the editing that's the hard part.
>>25269 >editing >not just publishing your 0th draft
a friend shared this local model with me for generating ai readings of books https://github.com/santinic/audiblez do you guys know any other local voice models so I can try out generating books for youtube or something fun
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>>25244 I can barely prewrite a post for the book club, so that's a no.
>>25209 >Is it better to publish something unfinished and never finish it, or to simply never publish it at all? All depends on your reason for doing so. Are you going to die of a terminal illness or something? Publish it. Are you just being flaky and lost interest, but still want whatever views/likes/followers you can get out of half-assed work? Better not to post it, although plenty of people still do.
>>25274 Go look in PPP, I remember they had a pretty decent tool for local generations. >>25244 I doubt he's written anything other than 50 Shades tier TwiLuna "BDSM" (morally repugnant dubcon passed as real connoncon that would be classed as rape irl).
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Wow this site layout fucking sucks donkey dick. I really hope 4chan comes up soon so we can discuss horsewords on a site that doesn't make my eyes bleed.
>>25418 You can pick a better theme on the top bar.
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>>25418 >getting filtered by an options menu
>>25426 I do think the site has actual issues though. Just to cite one: on 4chan, clicking on a post link to see its contents and clicking to redirect to it are separate interactions. Here they're combined, which means your URL gets messed up every time you try to follow a discussion. Also, there's a big where if you reload the tab sometimes the auto update checkbox is ticked in an invisible way and you need to reload again to properly turn it off.
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>>25431 Fair complaints
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So to no one's surprise THE SINBIN IS FULL OF SHIT AS PER USUAL.
>>25443 is your pic supposed to be an example?
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>>25443 >HiE >HiE >isekai >isekai >HiE >'Comedy, Random'
Do I cave in and write a Cyan in Equestria angstfic where Rarity reminds her of Superstitional Realism?
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MORE sesbian lex in, >/FSBC/ (Is there a point to the thing there if there's no archive? Who knows?) I left the discussion last week anticipating some kind of exciting new development or reveal in the Tuna relationship. I was sorely disappointed. Perhaps the expanded scope of the story was just too much for the author to handle—or maybe his lesbian mare fetish is just too powerful—but the author can't seem to figure out where he wants to go. I know I said Twilight and Luna were cute last week, but did their every interaction absolutely need to include gratuitous kissing, cuddling, and other intimacy? With Jigsaw, I honestly thought this kind of thing was fine because she was a side character and her sexual antics were happening off-screen, but now it's the main character and the antics are very much on-screen. I can only be grateful that the author had enough decorum to mask the saucier bits behind some not-so-subtle allusions. We get more (very valid) criticism from Shining and Cadance, which is shut down even more harshly and unilaterally by the Tuna monster. As things currently stand, all questions about the legitimacy of the relationship have been mostly smoothed over and Tuna is almost being played straight. With the introduction of this "prophecy" to explain away Celestia's original concerns, you could almost hypothesize that the author intended to introduce some of the drama Anons had suggested last week around this point but ended up hastily substituting it with the changeling mini-arc. There's still time for something to happen in the last third of the fic, but I'm afraid such a development would inevitably feel rushed. What we DID get was another battle that had some cool set pieces but was ultimately inferior to the first week's, along with the return of audience-favorite Algebra Changeling who now has golden super saiyan highlights and has evicted Chrysalis from her own hive. Oh, and Chrysalis/Blueblood shipping which the author actually managed to persuade me made sense. We've gone through another third of the fic, yet we're opening even more plot threads and hardly developing the existing ones. If we were still only halfway through, I'd have more hope, but I'm not sure how the author can wrap things up nicely from here. Next week we read through the entire thing (up through Chapter 22 "Secrets").
>>25468 Not much more to add compared to last time. I still don't buy the romance, and I still don't find it very compelling. The story tells me Luna was charming, funny, and the perfect dinner date, but I would've liked to actually see that instead of just being told it happened. What I did see was: > "Mwa ha ha ha! The bite shall last foreverrrr!" Call me SOVLESS, but even if it's intentionally cheesy and cringe, it didn't really land for me. The shield training was a solid idea in theory, but I don't think it was executed all that well. To not sound like I'm completely joyless: The bit where Twilight learned teleportation because of firefly is cute. But that could've easily been done outside of the romance subplot. I wish Cadance and Shining hadn't shown up in the story. The idea that Twilight's attraction might have an artificial cause had already been well established. Here, they just add cheap drama. And of course, no one uses the one spell that could just fix things. The prophecy scene was underwhelming and a bit cheap, but I'm writing to see where it goes to judge. Chrysalis and Blueblood as a couple is a fun and good idea. The whole airship arc had some decent ideas, but it dragged. A lot. And it wasn't super engaging. I might've forgiven that if the battle scenes following that had really kicked things into gear. Lol. The story started off with a solidly executed battle scene, I even listed it as a strong point. Writing those is hard, so props where it's due. But now? Nothing. The first battle is an absolute curbstomp. Which could be fine if it's setting up a surprise later... But the second one is also a letdown. Twilight's basically out of commission for most of it. The most exciting moment is her magically soft-landing the ship, which, fair, is a good scene. But it would've hit harder if it came with a solid battle too. Also, why even bring the Mane 6 along on the ship? They're not central characters here, but we could've at least gotten one cool scene or moment of brilliance from each of them for the big battle. The little Gimli/Legolas moment with Rarity and AJ was fun, I'll admit. But that's not enough. A bit of time was dedicated to Rainbow Dash new team but for what? On the flipside, we get scenes like Csharreee becoming a new queen. I don't mind that, it could be interesting. But I really hope it becomes at least somewhat relevant later, because right now, it just feels like time and narrative space that could've been better spent on a decent battle or making the main romance feel more believable at the start. It's not over yet, so maybe that payoff is coming in the next chapters. It's still quite easy to read despite it all.
>>25431 I'm on four different altchans at the moment and somehow not a single one of them has implemented an unread posts indicator in the favicon like 4chan has (the white/blue/red ! over the icon). Incomprehensible
>>25492 It's actually baffling how much every single altchan is worse than 4chan in terms of UI/UX. Webshittery is awful but it's really not that hard. Here you can't even send posts by clicking enter once you fill out the Captcha, come on.
>>25496 You can't beat the SOVL of spaghetti, unmaintained, old-as-fuck 10,000-line PHP pages.
>>25496 >>25492 Also /mlpol/ (and maybe here too?) will keep you at the bottom of the page when you update the thread, meaning you'll have to scroll up to see the new posts from the start. How can you fuck up such basic quality of life?
>>25500 On /mlpol/, if you scroll up slightly, it won't do that. I normally scroll it so the bottom edge of the last post is slightly off the screen. >>25496 Yeah it's really bizarre. Surely the altchan developers have used 4chan, and have used their own software, and should have noticed the missing features? I guess maybe they gave themselves a captcha bypass and don't notice issues there, but the unread indicator is such a glaring omission. And it's not just one dev, it's at least three of them, screwing this up in three different pieces of software.
>>25485 >The story tells me Luna was charming, funny, and the perfect dinner date, but I would've liked to actually see that instead of just being told it happened. I think the main issue is that we get a lot of Luna, but only the sexy, mysterious, archaic-speaking Luna in private scenes between her and Twilight and nothing more. We really needed to see more of Luna interacting with other ponies, showing more individuality and not just being an idol for Twilight to fawn/salivate over. Last week I thought this might have been intentional, but now it seems like the author only knows how to write one kind of romance. >And of course, no one uses the one spell that could just fix things. The author really blue-balled us there. Cadence and Shining weren't even particularly rude (at first), and Luna even consented before Twilight threw a tantrum. Twilight is so obsessed with the idea that her partner /must/ be clean that she's not even willing to get tested. >But the second one is also a letdown. Yeah, most of the military preparation "arc" was long passages about magical armor and technical descriptions of aerostatics. The battle itself was disappointingly short, and while things did get intense when the ship crashed and the ponies were on the ground after the nuke failed, Twilight just manually activated the nuke anyway and ended the fight like that. I wasn't even thinking about the M6 reading through it, seeing as how almost nothing they did had any impact. Rarity's bit picking out a sexy dress for Twilight was much more engaging. When she's fighting on the ground and rivaling Applejack for changelings killed, it seemed frankly out of character. >time and narrative space that could've been better spent Sums up this whole week, kek. The prose itself is fine and flows well, but it just didn't feel like much of substance actually happened. Hopefully the approaching end will get things moving again.
>>25504 >On /mlpol/, if you scroll up slightly, it won't do that Okay but I should not have to carry the burden of the devs' incapacities. I'm pretty sure neither this place nor /mlpol/ have a way to pin thread, either? And /mlpol/ fucking its threads' above the fold area by auto opening the reply form is frankly insane. Does NHNB even have a way to turn off autorefesh being on by default?
>>25468 >Perhaps the expanded scope of the story was just too much for the author to handle Yeah. Or maybe he's seeding for the sequels, but that doesn't help the story I'm reading right now be interesting. >or maybe his lesbian mare fetish is just too powerful Kek. Seems like we pretty much agree on everything. We'll see how the third part turns out, but the load it needs to carry feels way too heavy.
>>25468 >Luna doesn't like novels because she'd rather hear it from a bard >"as the shipyard shall seem a pavilion of delights with such a beauty as you for company." >an audience gathers to watch tuna dance by the river under the lanterns >"We must breakfast anon!" Fuck that nigger but he might be dead now so maybe I shouldn't say that >bravery vs insane recklessness "It's the same thing!" Kek >dinner with the bugs was way better than with the family >manticore flying up to look at the airship Huh, might honestly be the first time I've seen a mention of a manticore actually flying >inb4 twilight is the smart lady Or the lavender lady lmao >sexting through couriers Kek >airship ball gunners are just unicorns haning their heads out of windows >Bug Town >sex sex (on the shipwide intercom) sex making out in front of the troops sex sex What an odd environment the Royal Guard has to operate in >ch14 ending saying someone might die in 4 hours and then ch15 ends saying Twi only has 10 minutes left My guess is that Twi is going to 'die' and become immortal in the process. And holy shit, calling the EoH the Rainbow Power over and over is tacky as fuck. NMM still just seems like she's stuck in Twi's dreams rather than actually doing anything intentionally. In fact, this week really didn't add much of anything to the plot it seems. Tuna has a bunch of sex and kisses and we went back to battle. I guess we got more weird bug lore that forced Chryssi to live in Equestria full-time so that's something. I do like the evil goo continuing to adapt to everything, the tetrahedron trebuchet was cool. >>25468 >I left the discussion last week anticipating some kind of exciting new development or reveal in the Tuna relationship. I was sorely disappointed. Yeah, in the grand scheme of things, not much happened this week. >or maybe his lesbian mare fetish is just too powerful based >I know I said Twilight and Luna were cute last week, but did their every interaction absolutely need to include gratuitous kissing, cuddling, and other intimacy? And it was almost always in an inappropriate time or place. It's Twilight's first relationship so I guess I can be more lenient but I'd think the rulers of the nation shouldn't be seen making out everywhere they go >There's still time for something to happen in the last third of the fic I think we stopped moments before perhaps the biggest plot point so maybe they'll pull something off >along with the return of audience-favorite Algebra Changeling who now has golden super saiyan highlights Definitely didn't expect any of that >>25485 >Call me SOVLESS, but even if it's intentionally cheesy and cringe, it didn't really land for me. the better part was her almost telling a story from her past but cucking the entire restaurant >The bit where Twilight learned teleportation because of firefly is cute. that was kino for sure. Imagine some random bug making Twilight become the most powerful unicorn ever >The idea that Twilight's attraction might have an artificial cause had already been well established. Here, they just add cheap drama. Agreed, I think it would've been better to have Shining exist only militarily and maybe he asks some questions during the downtime and then maaaybe we get Cadance later after the battle, but the way Celestia sent them in as hitmen was retarded (and Celestia was literally just spying on the whole dinner) >like Csharreee becoming a new queen. I don't mind that, it could be interesting. But I really hope it becomes at least somewhat relevant later Agreed. I assume chryssalis might be relevant back in canterlot after the battle. Hopefgully it wasn't all so Chryssi could tell Twi her 'broken heart will taste exquisite later' or whatever she said after that whole thing >It's still quite easy to read despite it all. Absolutely. Even if nothing is happening it's an easy read Gee nhnb, why do I get to have 2 captchas?
>>25505 >We really needed to see more of Luna interacting with other ponies, showing more individuality and not just being an idol for Twilight to fawn/salivate over. This is absolutely what the story needs. I guess the author might not know how to go about it since the entire fic is Twi's PoV, but this would help immensely >after the nuke failed, Twilight just manually activated the nuke anyway and ended the fight like that Well actually the next chapter will undoubtedly be them finishing the fight. We have ended 2 chapters now with ominous hints that Twilight dies or leaves this realm or something. So I definitely wouldn't say the battle is over >Rarity's bit picking out a sexy dress for Twilight was much more engaging. When she's fighting on the ground and rivaling Applejack for changelings killed, it seemed frankly out of character. Completely agree >>25510 >Or maybe he's seeding for the sequels oh yeah, there's like 5 or more of these kek
>>25463 Yes.
>>25418 >can't figure out how to click on an obvious button No wonder your favorite pony is Applejack.
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>>25468 The fic feels a little lost. Until the end of chapter 13, virtually nothing of note happened. Well, lots and lots of lesbian sex is notable, but much like Luna's meager posterior, it all feels very flat. The drama ends almost immediately and without too satisfying a conclusion, and it's about the only plot point that seems to be closer to the end than when we had started this week. The romance is still pretty mediocre. We get that one dinner date scene and fifty more occurrences of them making out in the middle of each scene. I cannot really blame him, but the author's too damn horny for lesbian mares. It clearly wasn't just a Jigsaw problem. As for the non-romance parts, somehow it got worse. The first battle scene is intentionally not exciting, but intentionality doesn't make it more interesting to read. Even the "big" second battle is not too great. Perhaps worst of all, we're 40k words deep, and none of the non-Tuna plot threats advanced at all while some new ones were introduced. Was the extremely rushed CsharreeEEEEE transformation something the fic needed? I struggle to think of the week 3 plot that would justify this. The interactions between Twilight and non-Luna characters are still competently written, and the writing in general is pretty good. Furthermore, there were many small moments that I enjoyed, and I'll repeat that reading this was an overall pleasant experience. Chrysalis and BB? Fun! Twilight devising localized counter-shields? Nice! Chrysalis-Twilight interactions? Still good! But it's all too little to prop up the fic on the "SoL-lite" merits, and the big plot seems to be going nowhere. It is not impossible that the story recovers, but I am extremely skeptical of the author's ability to write a satisfying conclusion to this fic in just one week of horsewords. At the pace it's been going so far, it would probably need at least two or three more. Unless it's all sequel bait, which is also bad.
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>>25468 The Tuna has improved dramatically! The dates that they’re going on are really nice, and Luna finally did something helpful in the story by teaching Twilight a shield technique. The callback to Twilight’s spastic dancing at her birthday party by saying she can dance if there are rules is a good idea, and of course Luna dancing is great. The back and forth between them continues to be a lot of fun across many scenes. Unfortunately, aside from that one little shield training scene, the rest of Luna continues to be terrible. This whole series seems to be incredibly unkind to her as a character, always giving her the role of “bad” princess, and never justifying Celestia’s trust in her. Having her escalate offense from a slight into an object lesson in mind control by geas is just terrible all around, and scenes like these are often enough for me to drop a fic over. Here, it’s just one of many. The balance, of course, comes from the Tuna, and the rest of the story. Luna is a laugh and a half when she’s teasing Twilight, but it’s a blight on the story that she’s only ever at these two extremes. With the way the story spends its word count, it’s pretty apparent that iisaw-review-anon is a victim of the misleading story descriptions. The main plot of destroying the dark monsters is really only there as a sort of background noise for most of the fic, puncutated by a small handful of (the notably short) chapters. Not that those punctuations are bad, but it’s clear that the characters are as relaxed about the “main” plot as iisaw when they spend so long in Canterlot.
>>25523 I'll wait on new lore reveals before committing since apparently Cyan is currently trapped in the forever box.
>>25538 agree with all of this honestly >At the pace it's been going so far, it would probably need at least two or three more. This especially. And I think within 1 chapter of next week's reading we'll know how the rest is gonna play out. Unless we are going true dbz and this '10 minutes' gets dragged on for longer than a chapter >Unless it's all sequel bait ^:) >>25540 >The callback to Twilight’s spastic dancing at her birthday party by saying she can dance if there are rules is a good idea yeah, I actually really liked that >Unfortunately, aside from that one little shield training scene, the rest of Luna continues to be terrible I agree in the sense that I think we're seeing a bad side of her. As someone else said, the story would greatly benefit from seeing Luna without Twilight. But due to Twilight being the PoV of the fic, that's probably not going to happen. But right now we're limited to only seeing Luna interacting with a seemingly poisoned relationship and she and Twilight fend off everyone else thinking it's a bad idea. >Luna is a laugh and a half when she’s teasing Twilight, but it’s a blight on the story that she’s only ever at these two extremes. yeah, this is kinda what i was talking about. We need to get a glimpse between cutesy-with-twilight and defensive
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>>25468 I, for one, am enjoying the marelust thoroughly, so your complains about all the smooching and sauciness fall on deaf ears. Besides Luna's terrible characterization in the dinner, my only real complaint about it is that the story has made it too obvious that Twilight's strong attraction is due to mind control and the teasing of Cadance almost solving it before getting shut down isn't welcome. About the addition of plot threads, I can spoil for you that anything to do with Chrysalis is not relevant for the remainder of this story. I think it's good, anyway. That kind of changeling drama is fun, and it's a return to the bug-like worldbuilding that makes changelings interesting and a move away from the "changelings are just cursed ponies" bad worldbuilding from Celestia Code. Contextually, it makes plenty of sense for Csharreee to take over the hive, anyway, given Chyrsalis' abandoning of it. >>25485 >The story tells me Luna was charming, funny, and the perfect dinner date, but I would've liked to actually see that instead of just being told it happened. I don't agree with this "telling" criticism. There are half a dozen lines of Luna being charming and/or funny throughout the dinner date. Sure, it would be fun if it had more repetition there, but it's not needed. I agree with several of your other comments, but this is one worth pointing out more >Also, why even bring the Mane 6 along on the ship? >we could've at least gotten one cool scene or moment of brilliance from each of them for the big battle. This is actually something that the fic is doing great. First, by just including Rainbow by herself for some chapters, and then later by not dragging down the adventure with all of the M6. There are so, so many stories that fall into the trap of "needing" to give each one of the M6 a "moment of brilliance" and sacrificing the pacing, as well as the believability of the story to that altar. This one balances the friendship themes of the show (needing to bring all of them along for the climactic battle) against basic story structure constraints by not forcing all of them into relevance for it. >It's still quite easy to read despite it all. >>25505 >The prose itself is fine and flows well, but it just didn't feel like much of substance actually happened Yeah, the story is ridiculously easy to read, as much as a Starscribe fic.
>>25468 And of course, >"Oh, Twilight," Luna gasped. "Cease not thy ministrations now, Some layers of brainrot are permanent. >/FSBC/ >Is there a point Of course! It's tradition! >sorely disappointed / scope of the story / more plot threads / can't seem to figure out where he wants to go >lesbian mare fetish I have extremely similar opinions this week, too. Really nothing at all worth disagreeing about, which is a shame. >>25485 >I would've liked to actually see that instead of just being told it happened I didn't dislike the Tuna as much as you did. It's okay and if you so desire I will call you SOVLESS for not enjoying her playful antics with Twi—the date chapter was perhaps the only time the Tuna in the fic was actually good, imo. >Cadance and Shining I would counter with "maybe they'll be important in week 3!" but no, they won't, and we have thirty other plot points worth including over them. So yeah, that was an attempt at drama and a poor one at that. Which is notable because as unexciting as the fic sometimes gets with its story beats, outright "poorly executed" is not a criticism I could say about too many parts. >But now? Nothing. Yep, it's pretty damning that the opening skirmish is better than two major battles near the final third of the story. Maybe next week? Hopefully? >Gimli/Legolas moment with Rarity and AJ was fun We've already establish badass Twi, but I did not like these two being so battle-ready. Took me out of the fic a bit. >But I really hope it becomes at least somewhat relevant later Maybe if we all hope together, something will happen. Surely... >quite easy to read But yes, that's important to note. It's never a /bad/ fic. >>25505 >We really needed to see more of Luna interacting with other ponies Absolutely. I can't agree enough with that. It would go a long way to both help Luna's characterization and the central Tuna romance. >[Rarity killing bugs] seemed frankly out of character >didn't feel like much of substance actually happened Definitely. Great minds think alike and all that. >>25510 >Seems like we pretty much agree on everything. This is not usually the case for the bookclubs. I wonder what about the fic made the opinions so similar. Have we finally converged into a circlejerk of opinions? Jokes aside, I think it's because the story is extremely simple despite being written decently. That's not meant as a disparaging remark, but it means it's harder to walk away with wildly different impressions. >>25518 >What an odd environment the Royal Guard has to operate in On the other hand, there is a "Become a Lunafag" spell in this universe that also makes you a cool bat so I'd say they're doing fine just because of that. >Rainbow Power Certainly not a good naming decision, yeah. >this week really didn't add much of anything to the plot Yeah... >might honestly be the first time I've seen a mention of a manticore actually flying Wasn't there something in WoE? Or maybe in that Lunafic AU with her and Celestia swapped (Moon and Stars?). >maybe they'll pull something off We're all counting on that. The previous fic had a pretty sudden action-heavy conclusion that wasn't out of place so there's still a chance. I'm starting to doubt, though. > 2 captchas Bout you get 1100 characters per post more, so it's like 1.5 captcha per full post. Not their fault you're wasteful. Children from Twitter wish they could have more than 300 characters >>25520 >there's like 5 or more Three big ones. Which is still a lot. >>25540 We got a lot of Tuna and, unsurprisingly, you enjoyed that part more, kek. I agree about the small scenes being pretty nice, but that doesn't drive the relationship at all. There's little to it beyond all the lesbian sex. I like the Batte-Luna more than you do, but I still agree about the two extremes being a problem. And yes, the reveal of NMM's whole deal and/or mindcontrol is always looming over the next chapter. No, it doesn't help—it's been long overdue. >misleading story descriptions There just i
>>25560 >This is actually something that the fic is doing great. First, by just including Rainbow by herself for some chapters, and then later by not dragging down the adventure with all of the M6. There are so, so many stories that fall into the trap of "needing" to give each one of the M6 a "moment of brilliance" and sacrificing the pacing, as well as the believability of the story to that altar. Fair, and I agree, it can feel artificial and fake to force a "moment" for each of them. But in this case, I really think the author is doing too little with them to justify having them on the ship at all. Their best scenes, IMO, were before the takeoff.
>>25563 >There just i Site bug found! Although the counter says [number]/4096 and lets you post a post up to that length, it cuts off soon after 4k. That should've been: >There just isn't a main plot here. SoL-lite Tuna can't carry this fic.
I just think the captcha system is kind of massive ass.
They removed all captchas yesterday. Then CP was posted and they were back.
>>25563 >On the other hand, there is a "Become a Lunafag" spell in this universe that also makes you a cool bat Forgot to mention that, but that's some creepy mind-fuck too.
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>>25505 >We really needed to see more of Luna interacting with other ponies, showing more individuality and not just being an idol for Twilight to fawn/salivate over >>25553 >I agree in the sense that I think we're seeing a bad side of her. Since I'm part of the way into The Cadenza Prophesies at this point, I know that neither of you want what you're asking for, and thankfully don't get it. Luna's characterization never improves at any point between now and the end of this fic, nor the next fix, nor seemingly any fic after that. I don't need to spoil them with examples, because all of the examples I've already complained about in The Celestia Code and Luna Cypher are just repeated over and over for the next stories. Celestia is the "good princess." She has her strategies and plans within plans, always for the good of the realm. She makes her sacrifices for her image as the "pure" princess. She always does the right thing. Luna is the "bad princess." Whenever they have a fight, Celestia is the "good" sister and backs down, apologizing and smoothing everything over. Then, Celestia is shown to have been right all along. Celestia always trusts Luna like a good sister, and Luna continues to (very often) fall to her dark impulses, doing things that are evil, planning to do things that are evil, or otherwise just being wickedly bloodthirsty. Almost as bad as all this, Luna's relevance to the (ostensibly main) plot is very tenuous. This came to me when I tried to figure out what Luna actually does to advance the main plot and could barely come up with anything. She teaches Twilight the shield spell here. She does some monster blasting. Besides that, she's Twilight's stress relief. Celestia provides nearly all the military resources, Twilight spends down the royal treasury balance, and Luna occasionally provides a handful of Baps. This is muddled by the way their government works, all of it being shared, of course. But Luna generally does not help Twilight much with spellcraft, the way Luna is canonically a more competent mage than Twilight falls down to the Badass Twilight tag. Luna is almost completely shut out of Twilight's monster-destroying-gadget. She doesn't have her own airship. She just posts LGTM on Twilight's battle plans. A great deal of this is masked by the Tuna, by Luna being charming and hot and having cool lines and all the other many ways that she carries the SoL scenes that the story relies on to be entertaining. It works, but I've written Luna off ever being written well. Twilight and the rest of the cast has to carry. More directly addressing the comment, whenever Luna interacts with another pony besides Twilight or Celestia, it's mostly to abuse her royal status, threaten, or just generally be a bitch. I can only think of one scene with Moondancer in the sequel where she plays nice, and it's only a scheme to provoke Twilight's jealousy so that they can have hotter sex.
>>25574 Having the double one occasionally for the bypass is annoying. The Captcha itself is actually easier than the 4chan ones*, but the fact that you always have to type it and the fact that it pretends it's preloaded but doesn't actually work are both annoying though. It's very rough, yeah. *one time I saw this insane fucking 4chan Captcha, one single time after I'd had my session reset, that involved ten different letters and extra text on the sliding image that told you to only type the ones with a dot on top. They were getting desperate to stop the bots, apparently.
>>25578 >tunigger cometh >so does the CP Really activates my almonds.
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>>25518 You make that 4k character limit look pretty nice, Anon. >Fuck that nigger but he might be dead now so maybe I shouldn't say that Don't worry, he'll pull the trigger just as soon as the fic ends with a fully explicit Tuna sex scene in front of the entire population of Canterlot, who all cheer and shout encouragement. >My guess is that Twi is going to 'die' and become immortal in the process Oh, what better way to perpetuate the Tuna shipping than this? That's the only real reason I can imagine why the author might do this, but it's honestly the most compelling. >calling the EoH the Rainbow Power It threw me off, too. For how serious the fic tries to be, I don't know why the author felt the need to insist upon the most juvenile name once could think of. >I assume chryssalis might be relevant back in canterlot after the battle. Yeah, we've certainly been setting up a lot of plot threads, so best-case, the author has some rapid-fire action or a big finale planned. It would make up for the lack of development this week. And like you said, we probably stopped right before a really big event, so that's probably dragging down my opinion of this week. >>25538 >The fic feels a little lost. Yeah, even more than the excessive kissing/sex, the real issue is that there's not a clear direction that the story is heading. I was positive on the romance last week with the expectation that it would gain some more depth, but it's actually just become more shallow. It seems the author's idea of a relationship is "kiss every time you make eye contact" (which would be nice in real life, but it doesn't make a good story). >none of the non-Tuna plot threats advanced at all while some new ones were introduced Exactly. We had enough opportunities for interesting drama, but apparently we need even more to keep track of. >>25540 >This whole series seems to be incredibly unkind to her as a character You think? Far from making Luna out to be the "bad princess", I think the fic is actually incredibly sympathetic to her, and other characters are unreasonably suspicious of her for no apparent reason. That's only when they're suspicious of Luna herself, though. Most of their criticism is levied at the relationship itself and how reckless it all seems, which is totally fair. >it’s a blight on the story that she’s only ever at these two extremes That's certainly true. Like the other Anon said, Luna needs some more space to flex her wings and be more than a scapegoat plot device or merely "Twilight's partner". >>25560 >I, for one, am enjoying the marelust thoroughly Well, I mean, it's not so much about having too much marelust as having nothing but marelust. >the story has made it too obvious that Twilight's strong attraction is due to mind control I entirely agree with you here, and furthermore, that refusing to address it this far into the plot is to the story's detriment. At least the conflict with Cadance suggested that there was some foul play, but not more than what had already been hinted at. We also only got a single scene with NMM, who I suspect is the closest thing to a "main" antagonist, here. >That kind of changeling drama is fun The drama IS fun, but it came at a time when I, and I think most of us, were expecting real development regarding Tuna. Not that all filler or side-plots are bad, but this was filler where there shouldn't have been any. Neglecting the main plot purely for the sake of "worldbuilding" is something that's been criticized plenty ITT already. >not forcing all of them into relevance for it I agree that this is a good thing, but then why even take all of them along at all? Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy certainly don't seem to do anything noteworthy. >Yeah, the story is ridiculously easy to read, as much as a Starscribe fic. Honestly, I'd put Starscribe just a little higher by virtue of having cleaner environments.
>>25594 >The Captcha itself is actually easier than the 4chan ones* Since we're not on 4chan and it doesn't work here by default, I can say that the captcha-solving extension works 80-90% of the time on current 4chan captchas. You can still double-check to make sure it got it right, or you can trust the heart of cards and do the tab+tab+tab+enter to post. I think it's still the same one that tuna ate a 3-day for linking a year or two ago. The extension is named after the word for female highschoolers in Japan.
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>>25563 >outright "poorly executed" is not a criticism I could say about too many parts I don't know, there were points where the fic seemed to get confused where Twilight was in a scene, and the first half of the battle scene was so bare-bones compared to the first that I'd call it "poorly executed". >This is not usually the case for the bookclubs. It feels like it's been the case for the last few months of book clubs at least. Rariad, Celestia Code, I Watch the Moon, In Search of the Sun, and everyone was /mostly/ agreed on Vale. We need some more challenging material in future weeks, I'd say. >>25565 >I really think the author is doing too little with them to justify having them on the ship at all. Yes, absolutely. >>25590 >Luna's characterization never improves at any point between now and the end of this fic, nor the next fix, nor seemingly any fic after that. Thank you for crushing my hopes for this coming week. I can't wait to see Luna sidelined some more and Badass Twilight (tm) save the day by expending all of her magic with unnecessary teleports but conveniently have enough strength left to have one last face-fuck with Luna.
>>25642 But I like solving Captchas, you weeb. It's dlepilt. Keeps the brain sharp. And I mobilepost a lot anyway.
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>>25635 >You think? Far from making Luna out to be the "bad princess", I think the fic is actually incredibly sympathetic to her, and other characters are unreasonably suspicious of her for no apparent reason. More than think, I know. You're acting like my complaints revolve around the other characters being mean to her. No, excepting Shiny, they are much too kind to her. Like you said, they are acting like something other than Luna is the cause of Twilight's behavior, like Chrysalis, or something else. The fic absolutely makes Luna out to be the bad princess. She regularly betrays Celestia's trust, abuses her authority, and exemplifies many more immoral stances when a better option is right in front of her and all she has to do is turn down the vanity, corruption and murderousnses. But she doesn't, and Celestia forgives her and plans around her incompetence anyway. They are too nice to her. She doesn't deserve her crown, nor any of the trust placed in her, except for the trust placed by Twilight. The best thing about Luna that can be said in this series is that she's at least loyal to Twilight. >nothing but marelust That's hyperbole, I already went over how much I like the things that they are doing together besides fucking. >plot development There was plot development this week, namely gathering the force, things they're learning about the monsters, and actually traveling from Canterlot to the site. I have a different point to make on this, though. It is something that I cut from my post this week that I'll re-add now, in response to this. After reading the first three books in this "Alicorn Adventures" series, it's clear that iisaw-review-anon got got by the discrepancy between the stories descriptions and their contents. When going into this fic, I did not expect it to be any good, and that judgement was based on the cover, description, and a couple embeddings-based searches to confirm that Luna is still horrendously written. However, I enjoyed the story I read lot more than I expected mostly because it has only a tenuous and abstract relationship with its description. In other words, I didn't want the story I was promised, and I liked the story I got. This applies even more to Twilight Enigma. So, I don't care that much that the main plot is neglected, because it was never that good to begin with.
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>>25642 >a year ago DId you really think so? https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/39060875/#39064303 That one stopped being maintained, by the way. I switched to a different one forked from it and actually hosted on github, not that weird git server. It was very reliable for the black and white captcha, including with the slider, but useless on mobile with any of the more difficult captchas.
>>25661 I did think it was a year, yeah. After checking, the one I have is also the fork of the old one, but probably a different fork. It's good for the same things you mention, and anything else is irrelevant since mobileposting should be a bannable offense anyway. I think I must have gone digging for forks when the OG one broke and grabbed the first one that worked. Apparently 'my' fork is no longer maintained since late 2024 so I might have to switch eventually.
>>25668 "Bannable offense" this and that, what about breedable offenses?
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>>25657 >The fic absolutely makes Luna out to be the bad princess. I must have misunderstood you, then. I didn't pick up on this as much, likely because all of Luna's actions are filtered through Twilight's lust-vision, but you definitely make a believable point when you consider Luna's actions objectively. I considered Celestia and Cadence's focus on external enemies to be giving Luna the benefit of the doubt, both from being a thousand years out of date and also having been recently possessed by NMM, but they surely could have been more wary. I don't think you can say that being quick to violence and somewhat vain means that Luna is altogether unworthy of her crown, though. The disparity between her and Celestia would be better addressed by making Celestia less perfect instead (especially since this fic and Celestia Code both raised some suspicions of her, but it turned out that Celestia had always been totally pure and righteous). >That's hyperbole, I already went over how much I like the things that they are doing together besides fucking. I understand, but what I dislike is how even when they do stuff that shouldn't involve fucking, the author always manages to insert it (or kissing, or sensual cuddling) in inappropriate ways. I wanted more scenes with Twilight and Luna that weren't charged with sexual tension. >There was plot development this week There was plot development, but it hardly felt impactful. Maybe this is because we stopped before the big fight scene ended, like that Anon said, but the changelings didn't seem to contribute anything to the overarching conflict with the dark creatures OR Twilight and Luna's relationship. Also, preparing for a single fight that wasn't even the climax could easily have been written more briefly than about a third of the fic and still allowed for all of the necessary character development and exposition.
>>25674 If there were breedable offenses in Equestria we'd have more than just the one sunborn bastard child running around.
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>>25647 >Thank you for crushing my hopes for this coming week This warrants a more direct reply, I think >I can't wait to see Luna sidelined some more It's not what you think. It's worse. >>Badass Twilight (tm) save the day by It's not what you think. It's better. >>25677 >being quick to violence and somewhat vain means that Luna is altogether unworthy of her crown, though Throwing a geas at Shiny like a blob of mashed potatoes in a catfight at dinner is, though. So is her attitude that her mortal subjects are toys to play with or break as she pleases, which is never addressed again. That's enough already, but there will be a third thing in the next week as well.
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Is anyone here ever gangstalked by Paul? Does this mean he's going to review my fic without my consent?
>>25739 No, but I did randomly get followed and then unfollowed by a thread author.
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>>25754 Might have been a misclick.
>>25739 I wish he'd gangstalk me
>>25763 you don't get to play with people's feelings like that.
>>25763 There's also stuff now where I swear the captcha they have is making things randomly get taken away.
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>>25778 Not all of us are good with computers, or generally using our brains or hands.
>>25739 Yes, see his rules. He will pick random stories that catch his interest and put them on his "Read It Later" list. If you strongly don't want him to review your stories, you have to do something drastic. You could unpublish the story, but it only works if he hasn't read it yet (if he has, he'll post the review anyway). You can request a review ban from him, but the ban applies to everything you write (he explicitly says you're not allowed to cherry pick which of your stories you want him to read). It might work to mark your story as "incomplete" or to add a "porn" tag. He doesn't normally read those and maybe you could trick him into thinking he made a mistake. But if you think the story's decent, you should just let him review it. It's free publicity. You'll get some views and maybe some upvotes.
>>25801 You're right, I guess I should be glad at the extra publicity; I had just thought that you needed to specifically request a review to get one. It was also unexpected because the fic was published like a month ago and wasn't even very popular.
>>25814 I had a story mostly go unnoticed back in 2018 and he added to his review list six years later. It's entirely random.
>>25563 >On the other hand, there is a "Become a Lunafag" spell in this universe that also makes you a cool bat oh yeah I somehow didn't make a note of that hilarious scene. A spell that makes you call Luna 'Mistress' >>25635 >You make that 4k character limit look pretty nice, Anon. Amusing since I consistently post the least in my first post, but yeah we can get a lot more replying per post now (which is my favorite part) >It threw me off, too. For how serious the fic tries to be, I don't know why the author felt the need to insist upon the most juvenile name once could think of. Even worse since we're in Twi's PoV and I'm pretty sure she would respect the EoH more than most others, so her just sayin Rainbow Power is jarring. Maybe the badass Twi tag got to her head and since she can just flatten mountains at will she no longer cares about the EoH kek
>>25801 In my experience "publicity" is far from synonymous with "upvotes".
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Anyone got any advise on turning greentext skills into normal writing skills? I'd like to make some longform stories on Fimfiction.
>>25972 You literally just start doing it? You know the basic structures of writing, right?
>>25985 I started recently and enjoy doing it, also I'm a but more confident with it then with other creative pursuits, and yes I do.
>>25972 Read a lot and read good things. Pick up LotR right now and start reading. Pick up Pride and Prejudice. Pick up A Christmas Carol. Pick up good books.
>>26014 Been reading a lot lately and "just read a lot and read good things" isn't half bad advise honestly, as I've felt like its helped quite a bit; I just wasn't sure if there was anything else I should look into.
This club showed that flags were never necessary.
>>26019 Only because all club posters have very recognisable styles (especially after you've known them so long) and one was avatarposting. >>26018 The next bit of advice would be "read with a critical mindset". Analyse why things work, think back on something after you finished it, take notes if it helps you. When you find a good passage, stop and look it over to understand why it's good. This is helpful both in terms of the abstract of writing (characters, planning, plot) and the practical (prose, rhythm, style). You should analyse things and figure out how you can evolve your own writing thanks to them. It is however advice I hesitate to give, because it can accidentally lead to people making it the main way they approach things, which is wrong. You should always experience art as art first, and then analyse it critically. Otherwise your analysis is hollow and sterile, too clinical in the face of human expression. The third piece of advice is write. Write a lot. Write different things, and post them for people to comment on. Because your writing is probably going to suck when you start. Understanding how art is made and being good at it are not the same, so you need to practice and practice until you have a strong baseline of quality that you can then implement the things you learn into rather than artlessly aping what you like. Reading in general helps with that because you passively absorb proper structural details, but writing is always good. Write every day. Write new things you haven't tried to write. I feel like none of my stories are ever as good as they could be because I always try to push my own writing in them and try new things instead of just making something I know is good, but I wouldn't do it any other way. Stagnation is the death of artistic development, and you should never get yourself stuck tracing the same paths until you become a parody of your own self.
>>25972 Really the only thing that's different between greentext and ordinary prose is formatting. Greentext uses > in specific ways, and (in my opinion) because of that it tends toward short paragraphs. But everything else is exactly the same: Plotting, characterization, descriptive language, etc. You will find that most of your skills transfer with no change. Try writing something short, just to get a feel for your new medium, before you embark on your longfic. There are a few contests going on now (May Pairings and Fluttershy Is Best Pony), and you might consider entering one of those.
>>26089 As someone who writes both, this is true for the theoretical side of writing, like you said, but not for the practical. The short form present tense connectionless structure of greens is not like the structured prose of stories, to the point where it becomes upsetting when a green slips towards the latter. Not a knock on greens themselves, just an objective fact. Some skills will transfer, mainly planning ones, but the act of writing itself is different and your post trends towards that annoying reductionist view of stories' worth being within their plot and summary thereof, eschewed from the technical and artistic merit of their prose.
>>26069 >>26089 >>26107 Thanks a ton; I'll probably be revisiting these posts quite a bit.
>>26069 >Only because all club posters have very recognisable styles Given that it's all about writing I'd argue that's a good thing.
>>26089 >Fluttershy Is Best Pony Is this really where we're at? Repeating obvious truths for want of a prompt?
>>26181 Being distinctly retarded is still being retarded.
>>26199 But at least you're distinct!
>>26204 I'm not retarded, my brain's on hiatus.
>>24854 Just finished reading this story, and I’ve got to say it was absolutely incredible and incredibly cute. One of the best I’ve read in a long time. I can’t wait for the sequel.
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>>26209 Thanks, it's gonna be quite a while before any sort of sequel though. Too many other long fics in the pipeline.
>>26184 Fuck it, I'll write something for it.
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>>26302 nah, I'm good.
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>>26312 I wasn't asking.
>>26302 Cute fic. I'm not big on [COMEDY];[RANDOM] but this one was decent fun. Bonus points for referencing archaic TES lore.
>>26317 Is Numidium even archaic TES lore? It's at the center of two of the mainline games more or less.
>>26318 The last mainline game came out almost 15 years ago. At this point, even knowing what Numidium is qualifies you as a lorebeard.
>>26320 >15 years ago Yeah but Oblivion remaster release tomorrow! Right?
You'd think moving to a purityfag altchan would help us stay on topic.
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>>26332 Okay, faglord, bring us on-topic. What've you written or read lately?
>>26333 Would it be improper to use the Fluttershy contest as an excuse to bash Rarity?
>>26337 I don't know why you'd want to do that, but it's your writing to do as you will with. Just think hard beforehand about why you think poor, precious Rarity would deserve that.
>>26337 It's Fluttershy Is Best Pony, Not Rarity Is Worst Pony
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>1,300,000 words >three times longer than LOTR >almost twice as long as Stockholm Is it possible to harness this autism? Could we hook this guy up to a generator for the good of society?
>>26343 The guy literally posts an update a day, I don't even know what the fuck it's about and have no idea if it's good or just relentless. That human tag is a turnoff.
>>26349 I opened one of the more recent chapters a few months ago and the writing was kinda trash. Here's a random passage from the newest chapter that I have not bothered to read but seems not particularly good from a quick glance. I frown a small bit as my earlier worry comes back in a new way. I do not know what is happening with her at the moment but I didn't have any plans for tonight anyway. I cast a spell and check the time, showing that I still had a few hours before I would need to go to the castle. I wonder why she wants to meet there though? Normally we go together or she doesn't go at all, I guess I will know when I get there. I read the letter again before putting it to the side and watching as Philomena vanishes in a small shower of flames. I sit there for a few minutes in thought and eventually, I place the letter in a box that I keep the more personal letters in before sitting down at my desk again. I look over the assortment of tools, the few that have already been enchanted with Sharpness and Durability spells sitting to one side. I have put some effort and time into working on a few new spells to enchant my new tools with. Even when unenchanted they are massively better than my old tools. These are made by a nearly Grandmaster rank smith using a magical metal and no small amount of motivation to do a good job. The old tools in contrast were made from normal steel and even with me adding gems the metal was basically at the limit of what it could handle magic-wise. If I tried to make the spells more powerful I was likely to just break those old tools in my attempts. I can't really do anything fancy with these new tools, but I don't really need to. These will work far better and in a more convenient way than what I had before. And at least the spells on these were much easier to make than Entropy's new dress, as she insists on calling it. That Illusion spell was already made but it took some work to adjust it for the new band Entropy now has. The result was more than worth all the effort and bits I spent to make it. Entropy can now just be in public with no worry over anything or anyone touching her and disrupting her illusion. The Physical Illusion spell is now fully passive.
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>>26353 >it's stream-of-consciousness runescape grinding
>>26353 So it's relentless. I swear people go slop crazy for the slightly bit of wonky worldbuilding.
Holy shit i can actually post from work now...
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>>26019 Fics for when a system works so well that dumbasses forget the reason it was implemented in the first place? Oh wait, that's the entire "HiE overthrows Celestia" trope. >>26204 Rariflag, Twiflag, and Chrysalis were easy to spot, but I don't know in what order or which ones of Discord or Starlight showed up later, and it all got muddled at the end. If Rariflag gets the argument he wants, it'll surely fall apart with ">>thatpost was me" or something.
>>26107 You're right that the normal style of a greentext is different from the normal style of ordinary prose, and I don't want to take the reductionist view that you mention. I do think that style is important. Despite that I think there's more similarity than you're giving credit for. Writing is a form of communication. Greens and ordinary prose usually make different choices about what to communicate and how, but they are both grounded in the need to communicate action, setting, and so on. The writing of a raw beginner is often close to incomprehensible because they haven't learned what needs to be communicated. That skill is, I think, transferable between greens and prose.
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>>26454 It's funny because you're double wrong. Not only was I not the poster arguing for no flags at the start of this chain, there's also something else that you don't know about that makes this chain (but especially your post here) especially hilarious. And wrong. Avatarfagging and vagueposting required for once.
I am in the process of making a faggy group for faggy things. So business as usual.
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>>26562 I've been lurking for this entire thread, acting as if the collapse never happened. Some things don't change.
>>26569 I miss some threads on other boards I was lurking, though I hope I can find similar threads if/when 4chan returns. It had fucking better.
>>26562 Wouldn't that be bussyness?
>>26562 >>26601 I can't wait for both od you to die from AIDS
I gotta say, some of you guys are being way too harsh on that club fic. I know we've got a reputation for being critical, but I think this one deserves some credit. The author really took the time to develop the mane six's personalities beyond their usual tropes. Like, Pinkie Pie has some legit depth for once instead of just being "lol so random" all the time. And Twilight's struggles with self-doubt feel really believable. Plus, the plot itself has some real adventure to it! Actual stakes, some tense action scenes... it's not just silly slice-of-life stuff or shipping like so many fics. The quest structure gives it a sense of forward momentum. Are there some cheesy or cringey parts? Sure, a couple. But every fic has those. On the whole this is some of the most engaging MLP writing I've seen from the fandom in a long time. It really captures the spirit of the show. So maybe lay off the hate-train for once and give credit where it's due. This fic deserves better than the dumping you guys are giving it. Just my two bits.
>>26606 >t. sparkle
>>26606 Wow, you really drank the Kool-Aid, huh? This fic is garbage and you know it. You're just trying to defend it because you're a fanboy/girl of the author or something. The mane six's personalities are not developed, they're butchered. Pinkie Pie is not deep, she's depressed. Twilight is not self-doubting, she's whiny. The rest are just cardboard cutouts of their canon selves. The plot is a mess. There's no logic or consistency to anything that happens. The quest is just an excuse to drag the characters from one contrived situation to another. The action scenes are boring and repetitive. The stakes are nonexistent because nothing matters in this fic. The writing is atrocious. The grammar and spelling are awful. The dialogue is stilted and unnatural. The descriptions are either bland or purple. The humor is forced and unfunny. The romance is cringey and unrealistic. This fic does not capture the spirit of the show at all. It's a mockery of everything that makes MLP great. It's an insult to the fandom and the creators. It's a waste of time and space. So maybe get off your high horse and admit that this fic sucks. It deserves nothing but the hate it gets. Just my two bits.
I liked that one part in the fic where something happened.
>>26669 Behemoth anon be like:
>>26678 Oh god, he's not here is he? I saw him fall into the fire as the evacuation helicopters were taking off. I swore he's dead. He can't be still alive.
>>26687 That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die
>>26711 Damn, guess I'll have to start locking the door again.
Slow day huh
>>27035 Not having the sword of Barbiecles dangling over this thread makes bumping rather unnecessary.
My May Pairings contest entry isn't going well. I had an idea, but when I tried to write it, it didn't go anywhere, and I got stuck. Then I tried to outline it, even though I don't normally need to do that for a one-shot, and I got stuck. Then I tried to think about my characters and their motivations, and I got stuck. I think my idea must be bad, but I don't want to admit it. What do I do?
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>>27078 Reject shipfaggotry and embrace the purest form of love.
>>27092 If you have to self-insert, write a story in the second person perspective.
>>27125 >can't self-insert in a work of fiction without the very medium revolving around you I wish you luck with your erogetal dysfunction.
>>27133 self-insert my dick into your ass
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>>27134 Going to Griffish, I take it?
>>27135 >I take it You've already made that abundantly clear.
>>27133 It lets you avoid this Anonymous character completely.
>>27150 Why would you avoid the best male character MLP has ever had?
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>>27153 Sorry Anon, that spot is already occupied
>>27158 He really is the supreme stallion
>>27160 Fancy isn't even in the top 3. Maybe you can argue top 5 but he doesn't make mine.
>>27162 I'm curious about your top five now, considering Fancy is a clear No.1 for me
>>27169 Shining Sunburst Mac is the obvious top 3. Sombra and Soarin' fill my remaining top 5 spots. Honestly both Double Diamond and Sandbar are probably higher than Fancy for me too, but he likely makes the top 10. And this is if we're sticking to just stallions.
>>27173 >Shining Sunburst Mac Oh boy, have I got a story for you in the works...
>>27181 Poggers. Deets?
>>27182 Shining, Sunburst, and Mac are out in the Frozen North as separate parts of a select group to beat back some minotaur raiders attacking trade routes. Story is entirely just backing plot to get them all together and something something now they're all together huddled close for warmth in Shining's command tent away from everypony else. Sexo ensues. However, Shining has slight femcolt vibes because muh pretty noble and Sunburst is trap because I don't like his beard and he is the mega-bottom.
>>27185 That's gay
>>27187 Nonny, it's only gay if the balls touch. Big Mac does has massive balls. Hm. Wait no it's alright because fucking traps isn't gay and we'll have Shining wear some socks for warmth which also make it not gay! I'm a genius.
>>27190 >isn't gay >not gay What the hell is the point of ShiningBurstMac if it's not a gay-as-fuck gay ass fuck?
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How does /fic/ tackle overthinking a premise? I'd like to throw myself into a few straightforward one-shots, but I keep getting caught up on worrying about how I'm going to handle the little details and whether it's going to turn out well. I know the answer is 'just write lol' but is there a technique I could be using to make it easier to ease myself in?
>>27195 Drugs.
>>27195 >make it easier to ease myself in Alcohol is a great lubricant.
>>27194 That's the secret, doc. Much like a trap revealing the dick and surprising you, it was always actually gay.
>>27195 "Eh, I'll deal with that when I'm editing." And then you never edit. Works every time.
>>27185 >Shining is a femboy He's nearly as tall as the alicorns and was the captain of the guard, and one of two ponies confirmed to have ejaculated at least once.
>>27153 Quick question: do you go out in public wearing a shirt that says "I'm an uncreative hack" everywhere? That's the vibe I'm getting.
>>27214 >one of two ponies There are more than that, Nonny. M6 parents alone bump those numbers way up.
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>>27185 >not appreciating boybeards I knew you were a faggot but this is a new low.
>>27258 There is no confirmation that any of those ponies had sex.
>>27214 Ridiculous. Everypony knows that the stork brings little fillies to couples who love each other very much.
>>27285 That means Storks have the ability to deliver Alicorns and they just refuse to 99% of the time. We must seize the means of reproduction.
>>27285 Why do I have the perfect NL clip edit for this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-MkNO7LQ_c
>>27292 There is no use trying to reason with /kinder/fags.
>>27173 >Shining Sunburst Mac Big Mac wasn't enough of a sign that you're a flaming homosexual? You just *had* to include Sunburst? If Big Mac were a police siren and Braeburn were an air raid klaxon, Sunburst would be a nuclear bomb.
>>27298 Please realise this was in response to someone stanning fucking Fancy Pants of all ponies. Mac and Sunbun have actual character to them to like them for and episodes revolving around them instead of just sugar daddy dilf energy.
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>>27303 >stanning Obligatory "kill yourself" Also, Fancy Pants is the one aristocrat who's actually a respectful, friendly guy, so it's no wonder people like him.
>>27306 I bet you think Rarity is a virgin too.
>>27292 >Twilight going on a rant to a classroom full of seven year old unicorns
>>27306 Stan came out 25 years ago, don't act like it's a zoomer term. It's older than some posters ITT.
>>27309 >memorising the ages of the younglings really not beating the groomer allegations.
>>27311 >memorizing Pretty sure he's just extrapolating from clear behavior.
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>>27303 As the Fancy appreciator this Anon >>27306 is right. Soarin'and Big Mac are cool too but the charming, posh bloke wins out for me. >sugar daddy dilf energy Ew, no. I'm not gay in the first place, but this isn't a remotely appealing dynamic.
>>27326 I don't really see much gay stuff with him, usually him and Fleur are married.
Chat, how do I measure the girthiness of a horse penis? I don't know if it's radius or circumference. This is important for my horsewords because Twilight is a FUCKING HORNY NERD.
>>27367 Circumference gives you a bigger number, so it sounds bigger. In either case, you're better off using a comparison rather than raw numbers. Nobody can easily imagine how thick a circumference of eight inches is, but anybody can imagine how thick a soda can is - same measurement, different ways of evoking it.
>>27367 Wouldn't, as a native of Equestria and so clearly not a virgin, Twilight already know the ideal girth of a horsecock
>>27379 I haven't done as much anal training as you have, anon. I can't intuit these measurements solely on account of how much pain I'm feeling.
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>>27403 >pain That anon is so loose it would fall out if he didn't keep up a reverse goatse during sex
>>27288 I sense a new 8ch board incoming: /leftymlp/
>>27367 Only perfect circles have a radius. It'd be more accurate to approximate them by ellipses and measure their semimajor and semiminor axes.
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>>27367 It's a simple process, really. Will need some adjustment to fit the quadrapedal form
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>two years since I published the last CZ chapter Have a Fokienia. I wish I had the willpower to do another longfic. How many have you completed, Anon?
>>27288 This could be a fic, in a silly misunderstanding sort of way.
FYI the other place has a Fimmy thread too now.
>>27431 I prefer it here. It's more comfortable, and there's way less no-hooves content to put up with.
>>27415 I don't get it. Before, on /mlp/, you said you posted porn because you hated the mods and wanted to create work for them. I don't remember now whether you meant that you specifically hated the 4chan mods, or whether you hated mods in general. Maybe it wasn't even clear. I understand hating the 4chan mods, but I don't understand hating the NHNB mods. What have they done to offend you? Why would you post porn here?
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>>27436 Google "boundary pusher" and see if you can figure out in what ways what he told you was a lie, and in what ways that kind of schizo gets into conflicts with any moderation.
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>>27431 Reading the OP, it doesn't seem like they actually know we're here already.
>>27436 I find their puritanical posturing laughable when shit like >>27039 gets to clog up the catalog, not even spoilered. Also, this UI is ASS. >>27447 They do now. All two of them.
>>27445 Weird, the first image won't render in my browser no matter what I do.
>>27459 That'd be because it's got malicious code in it. Hope you enjoy your PC becoming a CP mule.
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>>27459 I noticed that, it renders fine in mine if I F5 the thread but not the first time. It's saved with arithmetic coding, which compresses better. 4chan always reencoded jpegs uploaded to it, including changing arithmetic coding to huffman coding, which is why it would sometimes say a jpg under 4MB is too large to post.
>>27460 Jokes on you, I'm browsing on a pregnancy test.
>>27463 Say, Kassazov, do you have a thing for positive tests?
>>27428 based foki
>>27467 Of course it's Fluttershy...
>>27462 >actual stained glass.jpg That's resin, not glass. You can even see in your pic places where a few drops of it got onto the frame by mistake.
>>27462 >Huffman This would make me scratch my head, except that this is the same site whose source code has comments like "// XXX dumb. :( XXX", and when that's your standard, wasting bandwidth on larger images just doesn't seem worth worrying about.
>>27482 >this is the same site whose source code has comments like "// XXX dumb. :( XXX" Anon, that's every site Anyway, Huffman coding is much more widely supported. IIRC arithmetic coding was patented until somewhat recently, and only began to see real use after the patent expired.
>>27484 Comments in coding exist so that you can expression your frustration with existence and the language you're working with, everyone knows that.
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>>27479 Most breedable mare, bar none!
>>27484 >every site No, you take that shit out before you check it in. >patents The patents on arithmetic coding expired in 2010. That's before most 4chan jannies were even born.
>>27488 So THAT'S why the tunigger became one.
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>>27488 >>27489 >/j/ stood for jailbait all along
>>27486 Oh my stars, I want to impregnate my own marefriend so badly too.
fics for this feel?
>>27561 ToD?
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>more HiE >more isekai >more crossovers Can't anybody write a story on this world's own terms?
>>27428 That is not bad at all—one is on par or better than what most of this thread has managed. I hope to finish mine someday.
>>27431 I refuse to go there out of principle. Not political (though less affiliation is good), but intentionally choosing a place with all that nohooves shit and porn is simply not excusable. Death would be preferable compared to where /mlpol/'s /poner/ would soon lead.
>>27592 I'm obsessed with the 'dark' era between Luna's banishment and her return. Been trying a while to get something going for a longfic, but it's all come out to be a series of scribblings in that interval period.
>>27586 *raises hoof*
Guys what if Hiro actually fixes it
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>>27768 We go back, of course. Look, I like this site and I'm glad it exists for times like these, but /mlp/ has always been /mlp/'s home and that won't change.
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>>27776 I wonder who got it >>27777
The fact that clicking on a post number to reply to that post autosets your URL to it and you have to manually click the bottom pin afterwards is actually psychotic.
>>19687 Be honest, do you get nervous before reading a review of your work.
I decided that we stay here
>>27803 I used to, but now it's just kinda neat
>>27803 only in the sexual sense.
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>>27428 I have an idea for an OC adventure in the pre-hearths warming frozen north, but it's beyond my capabilities (time and skill) right now.
>>27803 Do you get that many bad reviews?
>>27833 I love that period. I hope you get around to publishing some works for it.
>>27833 https://www.fimfiction.net/story/517137/iridium https://www.fimfiction.net/story/558178/colder-clouds https://www.fimfiction.net/story/559537/shallow-earth I read these recently and ever since I've been wanting to write something set during the time of the windigos, too.
>>27428 A while ago, we asked the question, "what's your least favorite amateur writing practice?" or whatever it was. Now, let's ask: what's your least favorite pretentious pseud writing practice? Mine is the triplet of >[fragment], [fragment], [fragment]. You've seen it a billion times. "The lap of waves on the shore. The stench of rotting seawead mixed with burning tires. The damp feeling on his hand." Just three sentence fragments that are usually meant to set a scene or convey some kind of subtext, but it's simultaneously pretentious and basic.
>>27905 I guess thesaurus laden descriptions that aren't trying to be funny.
>>27905 The shelf of purple Peen Stroke prose. The ever-open dicksword client. The faint hint of semen on his breath.
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>>27482 I went to check, and it's dumber. In lib/postfilter.php#L295 function strip_jpeg_exif() It runs /usr/local/bin/jpegtran, which by default converts arithmetic coding to huffman and also converts progressive jpegs to baseline. It is a switch to brute force from a more involved detection method in lib/postfilter.php#L441 function validate_jpeg_size() which was implemented because of >>27460 I know because those pedos also ruined the embedded music fun of 2012 and 2013. I scanned all the jpgs in my pony folder and there are files with embedded ogg in them (https://hyperindex.mlpg.co/mlp4674097.html#p4674959) that have progressive DCT., while after 2013 only files saved from derpibooru have progressive DCT, never any files from 4chan. Likewise, files like picrel was blocked, almost certainly by the function validate_jpeg_size() because embedding the letter's contents in exif gives it lots more overhead.
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Fuck yeah, I got new cover art again: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/507358/a-sexy-surrogate I wrote this story nearly seven years ago, uploaded it to Fimfiction nearly four years ago, but it hasn't had any cover art on until now. Cute stuff is always fun.
>>27986 you have a very skewed sense of what "cute" means.
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>>28004 I admittedly wavered on adding that last sentence. I think it's cute, although it's not as cute as the cover art I posted in the last /mlp/ thread, but how's this instead? I'm not calling the story itself cute, if that's what you meant.
>>28018 I mean that is sort of cute, but them as actual near full on horses is just weird.
Fuck, I'm going to a wedding on sunday but that's the final club meet of the fic ^:(
>>28042 Oh shit, me too
>>28042 >>28046 Congrats, fags.
>>28028 Ah, that's what you meant. I don't know, I think it can be cute, although it's usually just sexual.
>>28066 I'll hop in from the sidelines and say I think it's cute and sexy.
>>28068 There is something deeply wrong with seeing italics in what is ostensibly a regular /mlp/ thread.
>>27986 Do you think Merry impregnated Yellow?
"Knighttime Knifemare" kinda goes hard as an OC name actually.
>>28103 Too corny to play straight. It'd work as something a character might make up for a ghost story.
>>28104 I think being corny was the point.
>>28069 Desperate times call for desperate measures anon.
>>28132 Desperate Measures sounds like an OC Celestia calls upon when shit gets dire in a field the M6 or Guard can't handle.
>>28137 >when shit gets dire in a field the M6 or Guard can't handle. Gynecology?
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>>28137 So, every other week?
It's back up
It's down.
>>28237 It's working but it's very janky.
>>27884 always happy when my fics inspire. see you back home, anons
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>>28237 >>28213 It's both!
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Thank you for sheltering us in these trying times, NHNB. Time to go back home. I wonder if this thread will still be here the next time something like this happens in 5 years.
>>28213 rip my ability to phone post again, never even got to do it here
>>28380 Good, that is not an ability that anyone should be allowed to have.
>>28377 Considering threads that are four years old survived the refugee waves it's possible.
We could just use both threads.
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>>28447 Multi-thread posting!!
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I've become too addicted to basic markdown tags. I couldn't reintegrate into /mlp/ board culture if I tried. I'm not going back.
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>>28471 That's all?
>>28477 You not posting as much was certainly a welcome sight. Though I imagine that comment boosts your ego rather than discouraging you.
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>>28639 This guy has written the exact same story 26 times.
>>28644 kinda based tbdesu
>>28646 If it gets views it gets views, but I am tired of loading up the site and having like 30 notifications, and it's all from him adding his work to various sub-categories in various Groups I'm in.
Any Anons familiar with Old Ponish here? Can I get some help translating something?
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>>28639 Holy shit, that's my shitslopfic. >>28647 Yeah, sorry about that. I'd just go into the groups instead if I want to read something.
>>28648 Your readers can't read Old Ponish, so putting it in your fic is probably not a good idea. If you want an old-timey feel, you should probably use Early Modern English (like Shakespeare and the King James Bible). It's usually enough to use "thou" and "-est" judiciously. (But look them up or else you'll use them wrong and look like an idiot.) >>28651 Don't apologize for being based.
>>28680 >Don't apologize for being based. I mean, if he blocks me and then his feed still gets filled with me shilling myself, then it's the website's problem where blocking a user doesn't result in anything done by him in the groups being filtered.
>>28680 >Your readers can't read Old Ponish Readers can't, but characters can. Anyway I'm not a writefag, I just need it for... something else.
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Has anyone else been keeping up with this? https://www.fimfiction.net/story/565134/a-pocketful-of-sand I think its been kino so far.
>>28953 Can't say I have. I've been busy clearing a bunch of one-shots out of my TBR. I fucking love KotH though so this'll probably be up my alley.
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Just found the Fimfiction writing guide. Would have been nice if I found it sooner, as it seems useful, but oh well; Hoping it helps my writing (especially my punctuation) to not be complete trash going forward, as I'm just starting out, and want to get better. I'd like to write my own independent pony world at some point, with its own lore and unique creatures; but starting out writing fanfiction is probably for the best, especially since my main problem isn't even with ideas or making up lore, just writing itself.
>>29069 If you ever need some help proofreading feel free to post a WIP or excerpt ITT. >my main problem isn't even with ideas or making up lore, just writing itself. We've all been there, believe me.
>>29097 I'll try and post something here soon. >We've all been there, believe me. Nice to know I'm not alone then.
>>29069 I always advise beginning writers to write short stories. You might want to write an epic, and you might even do it someday, but you should always start with short stories. Two reasons: One, you can actually finish them. A long story is a much bigger time commitment, and it can be demoralizing to have a lot of work to go. Two, when you start writing regularly, you improve fast, just like learning any new skill. It's common for people who start with a long story to get so much better so quickly that they feel unhappy with their earlier chapters. They end up rewriting those chapters, sometimes several times, or abandoning the fic entirely. At least with a short story, you can publish it, say that it's done, and move on.
I've seen too much stories of anon traveling to equestria and fucking everypony Is there any story regarding a human getting in but after a while he starts hunting the ponies and it turns into a horror-survival story? that'd be swell
>>29144 There are a few greens, but them all end in >rape
>>29145 so there aren't many good stories of this type? I guess I'll have to pick up writefagging then
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>>29148 kek, that's sweet, ty I'll take a look in fimfiction
>>29142 Thanks for telling me this; I know I should start with something smaller, but I've been having to fight my ego to do so. I think I'm just gonna try and rewrite the greentext I made in >>21141 and turn it into a proper story to start out.
>>29266 The poorly made, rookie mistake ridden, Pinkie Dash one was mine btw, not the Octavia one.
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Would really appreciate whatever critique you can give this, and I'm sure I'll find plenty of mistakes when I reread it as its my first time really putting any effort into writing a fic. It's a rewrite of the greentext, as I felt like just rewriting it from the ground up was a better idea than just rewording it; nowhere near finished, but I don't plan on making it too long either way. Drip, drip, drip. Is all that could be heard, as a young Rainbow Dash sat bored and alone in the Cake families dark and rundown basement. Letting out a small "yawn" Rainbow Dash looked down at the slightly damp floor, wondering what could possibly be taking her friend so long to come back after she had left the basement to get what she had called "a special new toy" for some new game that she had came up with. Dash knew that Pinkie was great at thinking up new games, and trusted her with making them, even if they could seem strange or even just end up being pranks (which she would always get back at her for) but even she wasn't sure about the current one after Pinkie refused to tell her anything about it; all she knew was that she was tied with jump rope to a chair made for foals half-her age and behind a plastic pastel yellow table, with the game probably involving the three also tied-up stuffed animals that surrounded the other sides of the table. While rocking from side-to-side in boredom, Dash had caught a small glimmer in the eyes of the plushie that sat to the right of her; deciding to stop rocking for a second, and take a closer look at the green rooster plushie that she could have swore was staring at her. "what do you want" Dash said, continuing to look at the rooster that had dared to challenge her to a stare her down.
>>29309 the storytelling itself is without flaw as far as I can tell. It somehow intuitively feels grammatically wrong at some places but I can't support it in any way because I'm an ESL nigger myself Well written anon
>>29309 The excerpt's not bad, but there are a few technical issues, mostly with punctuation. I'll try to keep it broad: >Letting out a small "yawn" Yawn shouldn't be in quotation marks here. >"What do you want" Dash said, A line of dialogue like this should have a comma (or question mark since it reads like a question) inside the quotation marks: >"What do you want," Dash said, >"What do you want?" Dash asked, The first line is passive and awkward to read, which can make it harder on the reader to get into the story. I would axe the "Is all that could be heard" part entirely and go right from the drip, drip, drip onomatopoeia to "Rainbow Dash sat bored and alone..." Some of the sentences run a little long. For example, the 3rd paragraph is just one sentence that goes on for several lines. There's nothing technically wrong with long sentences, or even one-sentence paragraphs, but this one would be easier to read if it had a few more natural stopping points. It wouldn't be hard to change the semicolon before "all she knew" to a period and then begin a new sentence around there. Just a suggestion. When in doubt, turning a long sentence (especially one with semicolons and parenthetical asides) into a few shorter ones usually won't hurt readability and will often actually help it. If you want to brush up on things like sentence construction or dialogue tags I'd recommend reading through EZN or Elkia's fanfic writing guides. Very helpful stuff for beginners.
>>29321 Thanks, but I'm not an ESL so I don't have that excuse. >>29322 Going to try and put all this into practice, and write out a few more paragraphs. Thanks a ton. >If you want to brush up on things like sentence construction or dialogue tags I'd recommend reading through EZN or Elkia's fanfic writing guides. Very helpful stuff for beginners. I already read through EZN's writing guide, but I'll probably read through it again so that it sticks better; I'll also try getting around to the other ones guides as well.
>>29328 No problem. Feel free to post more excerpts and I can try and critique as needed. Don't worry about it being perfect, though. Fanfic readers can be pretty forgiving about stuff like spelling and grammar, especially as long as the story itself is engaging. It's good to polish and try to improve as much as possible but don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. It's better to publish an imperfect fic than get so caught up in endlessly revising it that it never actually sees the light of day. I'm speaking from experience here.
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>fic was interesting but is dead >author does something stupid my autism won't let go, or a lot of stupid things >just generally not interested in the premise Trying to find a longer fic I'll actually like about some characters is just impossible it seems.
Alright, made a few changes, and looked back at EZN's guide. Wrote a few more paragraphs to go with it too; so that I'm not just posting the same thing but slightly changed. Drip, drip, drip. A young Rainbow Dash sat bored and alone in the Cake families dark and rundown basement, unsure of what to do with herself as she waited for her friend. Letting out a small yawn, and looking down at the slightly damp floor, she wondered what could possibly be taking her so long to come back after she had left the basement; to get what she had called "a special new toy," for a new game that she had came up with. Dash knew that Pinkie was great at thinking up new games, and trusted her with making them; even if they could seem strange or even just end up being pranks (which she would always get back at her for). But even she wasn't sure about the current one, after Pinkie refused to tell her anything at all about it. All she currently knew was that she was tied with jump rope to a chair, made for foals half-her age, and behind a plastic pastel yellow table; with the game probably involving the three also tied-up stuffed animals that surrounded the other sides of the table. While rocking from side-to-side in her undersized chair, Dash had caught a small glimmer in the eyes of the plushie that sat to the right of her. Deciding to stop her energetic rocking; she took a closer look at the green rooster plushie, that she could have swore was staring at her. "what do you want?" Dash said, looking towards the green rooster plush that had dared to challenge her to a stare down; and gazing straight into its lifeless beady-eyes. After having stared directly into the half-cloaked in darkness roosters eyes for an uncomfortably long time, Dash began to get slightly nervous; wondering if her friend had forgotten about her down here, and if she'd be back anytime soon. Having had finally had enough of waiting for whatever it is that Pinkie had planned up, Dash leaned further, and further back in her chair; preparing to loudly call out Pinkie's name to see if she had even remembered that she had left her friend down in a dingy basement. But just as Dash had begun to draw air into her lungs to cry out, a loud slam! Echoed throughout the basement, causing her to lose her balance and fall back in her chair, and onto the damp, dark blue basement carpet. "Plf, pleh, puh! Who even puts carpet in a basement anyways!" Dash said to herself. It not even registering to her yet that the light had been turned on, and that the room was no longer the dark, uninviting one that it was a just a second ago. Pinkie Pie slid away from the door, and moved swiftly; clip-clopping her pink hooves over to her old pastel colored table, that had been stored in the Cakes basement for some time now. Stealthily sliding off the object she had on her: sky blue, white polka-dotted, and pink frilly saddle, onto the table. She decided taking advantage of her friends predicament to surprise her, and get her new "toy," setup was a great idea.
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>>29421 Ya, I know those feels. >>29435 Probably just going to finish up the story after this one, as it's not that long anyways.
I think I may have spaced things out a bit too much, but I'll leave the post up for you to judge.
Are physical copies of fics ever worth it, and if so, does anyone have any stories (preferably large stories) they'd care to recommend that are in print?
>>29438 Cheers. I probably won't be able to read through for a day or two but I'll try and drop some feedback when I can. >>29453 I don't mind the idea in theory, and groups like Ministry of Image make some really nice looking books, but in practice I have yet to see a fic print edition that I simply have to have. Fallout: Equestria? Past Sins? Anthropology? I'll have to pass.
Got nowhere else to ask this, so I figured this thread is the best place to. Is Anon Stallion just borked on a conceptual level? I keep thinking of funny short story ideas with him in it, were he'd end up being the butt of a joke; but every time I do, I end up just thinking that a oc, or an actual character from the show would be better. I don't have this problem with Human Anon, or even Anon Filly, when I'm writing down story concepts for later down the line.
>>29536 >Anon obligatory YAGTH Anonstallion is typically more self-insert wish fulfillment than character. Unless your story relies on using his specific traits of being both anon AND a stallion, there's no reason not to use another Anon archetype--one with actual character--or even just a canon/OC stallion.
>>29546 >obligatory YAGTH Do I look like a jackass for always capitalizing: anon, anon filly, and anon stallion? I'm just so used to capitalizing both of a ponies names (if you can call filly/stallion names that is). >one with actual character This is the problem; I just don't see much of a character in him.
>>29550 >capitalizing Nothing to do with it, anon. You're fine. >don't see much of a character Pretty much. The other anon archetypes already adhere to 'anon assholery', but anon stallion is pretty barebones. I suppose you could do the same, but, well, few things come to mind that make it 'worth' applying. Like 'anon gets gelded', or even RGRE; those work best when it's not using a human, or female anon like anonfilly.
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How are you supposed to find the motivation to write more? I want to get better at it and I even enjoy it, but I keep losing the will to actually do it. I've even been writing down ideas and thinking up stories, but I just can't put pin to paper.
>>29762 The answer being that simple hurts, but I get it. I've been reading more lately and paying attention to the way punctation marks are used, so hopefully that helps whenever I get around to writing again. Might just start posting quickly done short stories on Fimfiction to get myself going, and then make a new account if I actually git gud.
>>29763 indeed. i wish to write a gory story about anon turning feral in equestria and starts feeding on the horse meat but i first need to get some experience lest my idea will end up half baked
>>29456 If you do come back, don't bother reading that one, as I've about finished up the complete story on Fimfiction; it ended up being longer than I had planned (over a thousand words longer), and it's still not very great, but I think I'm making progress either way. >>29765 Even though I don't really dig the concept of ponies being hunted, I wouldn't mind trying my hand at proof reading for any short stories you'd like to pump out to practise.
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Just published my first short story on Fimfiction, now I'm just waiting to see if it gets approved or not; if it does then I'll try posting it here.
>>29872 I've never put a story on Fimfiction. What are the criteria to publish there?
>>29874 You'd have to check the site to really get a more in depth answer to that question. One thing it said was for your story to be at least one thousand words, mines around twenty-five hundred. The quote: "I didn't have time to write you a short letter, so I wrote you a long one," kept popping up in my mind as I typed out my story, so I'd recommend you remember it too.
>>29874 Oh shit, I meant I submitted my story to be published; not that it already had been
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Here it is! I completely rewrote the story and shifted away from the prompt it had been based on. https://www.fimfiction.net/story/578016/funny-bake-broken Definitely learned a lot while making this, surprised how much enjoyment I got from doing it too.
>>29878 The pacing is really good!
>>29879 Thanks! So did you enjoy reading it, or did you just take a quick skim through? I think I may have stretched out the beginning a bit too much.
>>29893 I enjoyed it, and no, each part was pretty well-paced out, hence my comment.
>>29762 The only stuff I ever seem to get any ideas for end up being longer stuff, or I imagine them better as comics. My brain might just be too special for this whole writing thing.
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>>29895 I still ended up editing it a bit more. Probably should have waited a day or two before trying to get eyes on it, as just thinking about some lines I realize how much can be changed or shortened down for the better. >>29898 >The only stuff I ever seem to get any ideas for end up being longer stuff Try thinking of something silly involving ponies that wouldn't lend itself too well to being longer than a single chapter. >or I imagine them better as comics. I sometimes do the same, but you should remember that if it's not good enough as a written story, then it might not be good enough a story if it were drawn either.
Watch out for anyone asking to make a comic out of your story, they're scammers/bots; also don't click on any links they send you.
>>29906 I'm not really any good at just sitting down and thinking of ideas, I usually just have to write them down when they come to me, then come back later to flesh them out into an actual story (I don't do this part). Only thing I thought of recently that would count as a single chapter length would be a prequel short type thing of a longer story I also haven't written. Probably true, you still need to be good at writing to make a good comic. It's just a different way of expressing the story. Good thing I'm not an artist either.

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