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Anonymous 07/08/2021 (Thu) 06:11:37 No. 286
This is my wife, Twilight Sparkle! We love each other very much. Say something nice about her.
>>286 She is a very cute poner. Do you think she magically enhances her cuteness?
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>>286 She's cute.
>>287 >spoiler No, but she sure enhances my heart with her love.
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>>321 I know, but I don't mind at all.
That is an amazingly cute gif. Just imagine getting a hug from such a cute purple poner. >I know, but I don't mind at all. Neither would I.
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>>445 Imagine getting to use both of them as a blanket. Covered by warm, soft Twilights.
I want to hug Twilight Sparkle! I want to cuddle her and make her happy!
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>>1268 >I want to hug Twilight Sparkle! I want to cuddle her and make her happy!
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I want to rim her stink-hole.
>>1268 >>1271 A while back someone mentioned the idea of many of the ponies "hibernating" the winter together in group cuddle piles. The idea seemed cute. >>1375 This too.
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>>1375 >"Anon, are you implying I don't maintain a regular and through hygienic bathing schedule?" >>1377 >A while back someone mentioned the idea of many of the ponies "hibernating" the winter together in group cuddle piles. The idea seemed cute. Honestly that's one of the cutest things I can imagine.
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Canterlot Plot
>>1519 She really was a Canterlot snob.
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>>286 Pretty face.
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I never get tired of this gif.
>>286 she is a very cute pony
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>>1774 This image just makes me think of that thread of the guy who got stabbed after insulting a trixiefag I think
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>>1808 Death to those who insult Trixie.
>>1808 The only "trixiefag" who deserves insulting is seth.
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>>1814 I like the look of this, the art is wonderful. Could a translation be done of the text please?
>>1823 It's very poetic, with rhyming, and much old slavic vocabulary. And I'm not very good at translation.
>>1823 Looked it up on Derpibooru and found this. I'll green the parts that are close to the original. Translation by nemryn: >Behold the Nightmare, keen and shrewd >Trapped on the moon and thus subdued >She had a plan, she would break free And Night would fall eternally. >Behold young Twi, student supreme >With facts from books her mind did teem. She found a fact of much concern: The Nightmare would one day return! >Thus said the Princess of the Sun, A mentor still surpassed by none, "You have a quest! No time to read! To Ponyville your path must lead!"
>>1823 >>1825 Found a more accurate one on DeviantArt. Here is an evil Night Mare That was imprisoned on the crescent moon She thought up to escape And throw lightning at ponies Here's Twilight Sparkle from Canterlot Always happy at wisdom from books Drinking tea from a samovar and flipping through a book Read about the Mare, and got a terrible fright This is the beautiful Solar Princess, who is very nice to her student But doesn’t believe in books. And Twilight was sent from Canterlot.
>>1823 It's a parody of Church Slavonic, using archaic letters and sentences. I don't know early Modern English to imitate the feel, so have a simple, flavorless translation. Left to right, top to bottom: >And here is mischievous Night Mare >Who is imprisoned on the Moon >She is planning to flee [from there] >And throw lightings into pones >Here there is Star of Twilight (literally) from Horsecity >Always glad for the book wisdom >Drinks tea from the samovar (firewood powered huge kettle) and leafs through chronicles >She have read too much about the Mare and got very afraid >Here this is beautiful (literally, red) >Sun Princess >very kind >towards her student >Sign: Pony Village >[She]Doesn't have >Any trust in the cronicles >Decides to send the Star >Out of the Horsecity
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>>1824 >>1825 >>1826 >>1827 Thanks to all of you, from each of those translations I think I get what is being put across.
>>1814 >Зр̑ка I'm honestly stumped as to this abbreviation >>1827 How did you get Star from that? Maybe I'm having a brainfart but I literally cannot parse that word. The declension into Зр̑ькꙋ, with the random soft sign in the middle, isn't helping.
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>>1829 зорька ?
>>1829 Dunno, in Ukrainian Зiрка means star, so I went with that.
>>1831 that's more like 'morning/evening glow'?
>>1832 Interesting. That is the cognate, but it seems the meaning has changed in Ukrainian.
>>1834 What's your language, anon? I faintly remember Serbian has a word зрак, ray or glow.
>>1835 Russian.
>>1836 Hmm, mine as well. Although due to a rather unfortunate events of the past I also know Ukrainian.
>>1831 As in заря? That'd make for Twilight Dawnlet. I found one slavonic dictionary and apparently "зеркъ" is an adjective which meant blue-eyed, but I wasn't able to find any other sources for this word, I've never heard it before, and it makes little sense both grammatically and by meaning. >>1832 You might be on the right track, given that afaik Ukrainian generally tends to be descended from a similar ancestor to Russian, and is closely related to old slavonic. It's possible there's a common root that did exist in slavonic but got lost in Russian, and I just haven't found it. >>1837 My condolences.
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>>1837 If you don't mind me asking, political events or personal events?
>>1839 >Dawnlet Twi is Celestia's daughter confirmed! >>1840 >political events or personal events The first often seamlessly transitions into the second
>>1839 Often o in Common Slavic becomes i in Ukrainian. Ukrainian: зірка (star) Belarusian: зорка (star) Russian: зорька (dawn) In this case it is the Russian that preserves the original meaning. In Ukrainian/Belarusian it replaced this word: Ukrainian: звізда (star - archaic) Belarusian: звязда (star - archaic) Russian: звезда (star)
>>1844 >In this case it is the Russian that preserves the original meaning. That makes sense, thanks for these translations. Linguistics can be quite fascinating. But now the image doesn't make sense, unless the artist switched to non-russian/slavonic for one word, or genuinely tried to call her "Twilight Dawn".
>>1846 >>1848 As diminuitive of заря.
>>1849 As in old slavonic заря. See dictionary page I linked to above. (Sorry for line-by-line posts.)
>>1848 >>1849 >>1850 >заря, свет, луч >свет, луч Interesting, I wasn't aware of that archaic sense. That could actually be right. It's a slightly odd translation but honestly I can see where it comes from - "Twilight Ray", "Twilight Shine" so to speak. That's actually a really cute name. Now my only question is why does the first use omit the ь reeeee
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>>1869 That first one is exceptionally cute.
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Does Twilight like it in the butt or in the mouth?
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>>2337 He really is like a little gecko or something.
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>>2376 He's more like a salamander.
>>2377 >a salamander Yeah I could see that. But more like the giant ones I get around where I live and not the regular tiny ones.
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>>2378 For reference. Couldn't find any of my own pictures of them though.
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>>2378 >>2379 I actually found one of my own.
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>>2379 >>2386 Interesting photos. I was actually more referring to how in the symbolism of pre-modern Europe, salamanders were often associated with fire.
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I love love love love love LOVE this mare! I'm going to love her forever and ever!
>>2963 Those are some sparkly eyes.
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>>2964 Aren't they so amazing and beautiful?
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You know what I love, and miss? Twi-Daily. Whatever happened to Twi-Daily?
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Twilight's are so happy to see (You) anon
>>3077 Twilight's what?
>>3092 can you not see the trio of twilight's anon or are you blinded by the amount of twilight?
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>>286 How is the Twi draw challenge going? I haven't been on /mlp/ since all the shit 3D dogposting
>>3650 The thread for it died, and an anon repaired some of the really messed up draws. https://u.smutty.horse/mdizrdjjhjy.png
>>3656 Saved Thanks anon
>>3656 Nice to see it saved. Was watching the thread for a while but unfortunately never got around to drawing a Twi for it.
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>>4681 Kek.
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>>5657 >Book she's reading in English >Stack of Russian texts behind her
>>5658 So? That's nothing strange. I can read both too.
>>5659 No, not that strange. Just had me wondering for a moment if someone had edited the main book to be in English but forgot the others. But then I noticed the other items in English on the table as well.
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>>5853 That's a good story.
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>>5658 Twilight knows a lot of languages.
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Twiggles broke.
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>>286 >Say something nice about her. well, she has, or at least had, a great library of books
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Gotta post this because that Twi is too cute.
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>>8883 >When she spots the hayburger
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>>8885 >when you kill yourself
>>6680 me when my entire ip range is blocked on /mlp/ so I have to post here for the time being
>>8988 what did you do, anon?
>>8989 Nothing, some chucklefuck decided to spam the site using my ISP and got me and probably a few others blocked in the process. Hopefully the block will be gone by next week
>>8990 I hope you'll enjoy your stay here fren
>>8990 I know that feel, but i haven't gotten range b&... yet
>>8990 For what it's worth, you can appeal a rangeban through the feedback form though I don't think it's worth much. My mobile ISP had been banned from /mlp/ specifically for about 3 years before they just all of a sudden decided to remove the ban. Hopefully you'll get lucky though and it'll be over before too long.
>>8990 Also, we have cyoa running currently https://nhnb.org/fim/res/8267.html#8267
>>8994 Not him, but the only thing I ever got with an appeal is another warning or longer ban. Fuck tranny jannies
>>8996 Rangeban appeal is not like the regular appeal. I used to send them in monthly. Supposedly they're supposed to go to a level above the regular mods and jannies but who really knows.
>>8994 I've submitted one but I doubt it's going to reach whoever it needs to in a timely manner, if at all. Being forced to lurk blows
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>>9000 Still range blocked, if this persists then this board is going to become my new home. In the meantime, have some twiggles
>>9042 Sorry to hear you're in that kind of situation Anon. That's no fun.
>>9000 I'm in the same boat, I had to move from cable internet to a 5g modem, and since it connects to a cell tower I have been rangebanned since then - 4 months ago. Alas.
>>9067 Describes my situation to a T as well, it's bullshit but I guess I understand it. Probably going to be essentially banned for the rest of the year
>>9042 >second pic Damn, looks more like she has a colic than is sleepy to me.
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>>286 I'm glad she loves you, Anon. Really. I'm so happy for you. If only she loved me
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What a coincidence. I'm also range banned and remembered this place.
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>>10738 Horrifying contribution. Is it possible that like me, your mental stability has deteriorated due to lack of being able to post ponies? I mean, there's a few threads here to do that, but we all know /fim/ moves at a snail's pace compared to /mlp/. Regardless, welcome to your new home for the rest of the year at minimum.
>>10741 No, I just like pregnancy and a lot of the Twilight images are unsuitable for one reason or another. This one is just large, but otherwise fine.
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It's a depressing time in my life. Twilight feels like my only center in this incomprehensible and unforgiving world. She's the only one to give me strength, yet she somehow takes it away just as easily. I don't know if she would actually love me or not, and that's what really gets me in the end. I wish beyond belief that I could join this lovely mare in her adventures in Equestria. It would be a much better life than this. I love her so much, but I can only hope she loves me back.
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>>11944 stay strong, anon! I'm sure she loves you!
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>>11944 Don't be silly, Anon. Of course she loves you! She's rooting for you and is proud of you trying!
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>>11954 >>11946 Thanks Anons. All this shipping content I keep encountering on accident doesn't help, but I just need to keep reminding myself it's only just fanart and all that.
>>12107 Canonically, she belongs to Brad the Waifu Stealer.
>>12126 Nah, that guy's still busy stealing Sunset from Shimmerfags
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An edit of an edit. Enjoy, twifrens. Wish I could post this on the main site's twilight thread.
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>>12174 I got your back Anon, just posted it there for you. Nice work.
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>>12176 Thanks, Anon.
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Day 132 of being stranded on this thread until I give in and buy a 4chan pass. It's very cold.
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>>12226 Cold like that?
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>>12229 Yes.
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>>12234 It's OK, anon. I'm rangebanned too.
>>12226 It still makes me laugh that people actually buy the 4chan Gold that we made up as a joke almost twenty years ago.
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>>12238 If someone in your area abused it, there goes your IP range. The only way to still be able to post Twily and not end up a thread hobo like me is to either buy a 4chan pass for the very low price of either 20 dollars or your personal information, should you decide to become a janny.
>>12241 You know, I have never regretted finally giving up on 4chan eight years ago, and everything I have heard of that place since then has only reenforced my conviction. I mean, that is exactly what happened to Something Awful way back in the day, and we mocked them mercelessly for it. Who even wants to be on a website with a bunch of suckers who pay for the privilege of posting on an imageboard?
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/mlp/ is literally the only place I could find where pony is still posted about on a regular basis and the only board I really care about. All the other boards could die for all I care. Sure, /mlp/ isn't perfect, EQGposting and G% posting is a thing there, but filters do most of the heavy lifting there. If there's no one to share pony with, then everything starts feeling significantly lonelier, at least for me.
>>12246 I feel you, anon
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>>12243 >Thinks 4chan is bad >Hasn't used the Craigslist forums In all seriousness 4chan is terrible with that horrid captcha; half the time I fail it because I can't figure out how it's supposed to line up or I misread it somehow. That alone is enough to get me not to post without even accounting for the diseased board culture. NHNB is the best place to post ponies the way I see it. Very slow, but nice people and no captcha. Have Twi.
>>12246 Shit, we're here. Share away. That's what I'm doing. There ain't a lot of us, but we wouldn't be here if we weren't still interested.
I almost forgot. Have some silly Twilight short comics.
>>12254 These are fun. Thanks for sharing.
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>>12253 Ask and you shall receive. Even if not as many people see it because it's not on /mlp/, I'm happy at least someone is seeing it.
>>12256 The one bad thing about this site is the file size limit. Most of the moving images that I have are like 25mb.
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>>12226 Day 137 of posting here for the foreseeable future. Funny thing is, you never know how valuable it is to have your opinion heard until your ability to post is taken away from you. Here's another Twi. I'll try to post here every day from now on.
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>>12290 Conversely, nobody hears you when everybody else is yelling at the same time.
>>12290 If you feel bored, Twifren, we have a running CYOA. You can consider joining if you want. https://nhnb.org/fim/res/10635.html#10635
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Another day, another Twi. >>12300 Like you said, I'll consider it, but I'm not really confident I won't just spill my spaghetti everywhere. I'll watch it with great interest.
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Sorry to any lonely anons. I only really lurk even on /mlp/ and I tend to assume that the threads I watch don't update for months at a time, so I don't visit often. Have a Twilight :)
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Missed a day or two. Here's another one regardless.
>>12322 How do you think, what kind of career did Faust have in mind for Twi? What her character arc would've looked like if she continued to run the show?
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>>12326 Twilight Twinkle was to ultimately become "the most magical pony in Equestria," but what that means is not explicitly spelled out. Faust has stated that she had wanted to leave a little wiggle room there, but her idea was to have Twilight be a mage. In the initial conception, each of the Six were apprentices in one form or another who were working toward becoming something. They were supposed to be significantly younger than they wound up seeming. When the show finally aired, Rarity had gotten an enormous head start and already owned the boutique. Pinkie Pie was given a typical apprentice position at Sugar Cube Sweet Shope/Corner. Applejack got a much larger role in running the orchard after it had been planned to have Big Apple/Macintosh be the head honcho who more or less ran things himself. Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash did not change much, not counting Fluttershy being given wings by the time the show bible was done.
>>12326 I've always thought that Twilicorn was the natural conclusion to the show. The only problem was that it happened way too early and was not well executed. >>12327 Interesting. Are there any links to Faust talking about these things?
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>>12327 I think becoming a mage would have made more sense than becoming a princess/alicorn. Think about it, she idolizes Star Swirl (the most powerful mage of his time), is the Element of Magic, and studied magic literally every free second she had before moving to Ponyville. None of that pointed toward her becoming a princess. It pointed toward her becoming a successor of sorts for Star Swirl, even if she was Celestia's student. This is why people keep saying it came off of a snap decision. They gave us a heap of clues pointing toward her becoming a powerful mage of sorts, but since that wasn't climactic enough for them (or they wanted to sell more toys, I don't claim to know what goes on at Hasbro), a princess she became. In a somewhat unrelated note, Twilicorn makes my waifufaggotry seem just that much less realistic. I mean, come on, even if I were to go to Equestria, somehow become good friends with the mane 6 and all, I'd be on what amounts to a time limit before making her my waifu becomes a political issue in addition to emotional one, what with all the social dissonance between a commoner and a princess. At least when it comes to Celestia you could make an argument it could happen should she offer you a spot in her castle until you get on your feet or whatever, because she's like that. With Twilight, the whole thing about her being a new princess would ultimately mean her standards for a husband or something like that would raise dramatically and even with being a human, I wouldn't an element of harmony like all of her friends, which would mean she would have little to no reason to interact with me often. We saw what happened with Twilight's friends in Canterlot and how easily they were forgotten. Who knows, maybe I'm just overthinking things (which is one thing we tend to share in common), or I'm insecure, but I just feel it would destroy my chances with her
>>12329 Didn't think of this while writing, but the only example we really have of an alicorn in an active relationship is Cadence and Shining, and that one's... well, strange. True, both of them knew each other when they were yearlings, but would the duration of Season 1 and 2 really be long enough to establish a strong enough friendship with Twilight to take it to the next level Post-Alicorn? It might make for a small amount of hope for me, but I'm still a bit torn on it.
>>12328 >Are there any links to Faust talking about these things? The "most magical pony" line comes straight out of the show bible, and she hinted strongly at it on her "Fyrefly" DeviantArt account. She also spoke frankly about it in that legendary thread where she showed up on 4chan's /mlp/ back in 2013 to rant about the existence of Equestria Girls. It is probably still in the 4chan archive, since it was a legitimately legendary thread.
>>12329 >At least when it comes to Celestia you could make an argument it could happen should she offer you a spot in her castle until you get on your feet or whatever, because she's like that. Honestly, bagging Celestia would be a big time step up. Think about it--wisdom of the ages born of living for millennia, richer than God after collecting centuries worth of taxes, a pantry full of pastries, a much cooler castle with a whole damn city attached to it, as tall as a real horse, has probably tried every single last kink ever imagined just for the novelty of it, will not be tempted to use you as a test subject for magical experimentation.
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>>12333 Honestly, while I get where you're coming from, I still prefer Twilight because she had some sense of modesty back when she was a unicorn and isn't prone to abusing her status as "princess of friendship" considering she barely even mentions it and her friends have to remind her about it. The utterly retarded magic experimentation is actually from green writers that like to twist her personality. She already has about 1000 different ways of experimenting on things with magic and there's no way in hell she'd do it without consent. She could use Spike, she could use Flutters' animals. Even if you argue "but you would be the only human so she'd wanna find out what happens with you", what reason would she have to think magic doesn't do the same thing to you as literally anything else? Ideally, if I go to Equestria I would have magic resistance based on consent. Essentially, I'd choose what affects me and what doesn't
>>12342 >The utterly retarded magic experimentation is actually from green writers that like to twist her personality. Like Chris Savino, who wrote "Boast Busters?" Or M.A. Larson, who wrote "Lesson Zero?" Those guys were around at the beginning. >Ideally, if I go to Equestria I would have magic resistance based on consent. It would make more sense to have friendship resistance based on consent. Otherwise, you will end up getting reformed and have your whole character turned into an inconsistent mess or be utterly ignored because the writers can't think of any way to work you into a story anymore.
>Like Chris Savino, who wrote "Boast Busters?" Or M.A. Larson, who wrote "Lesson Zero?" Those guys were around at the beginning. Put down the glue. I was referring to the harmful magic experimentation against the subject's will. Spike was obviously willing in Boast Busters. As for Lesson Zero, aside from being the weakest episode of season 2, Twilight going out of her fucking mind can't exactly be counted as controlled magic experimentation can it? >It would make more sense to have friendship resistance based on consent. Otherwise, you will end up getting reformed and have your whole character turned into an inconsistent mess or be utterly ignored because the writers can't think of any way to work you into a story anymore. Ignoring the fact that if Equestria actually exists it would be outside of writer control due to being a world of its own with free will and the potential to stop so many bad episodes would be at my fingertips, the elements of harmony are based on Friendship Magic or Harmony Magic or whatever the fuck, which means that they wouldn't affect me either if I didn't consent since it falls under the blanket of magic. Also, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't shoot me with the rainbow beam unless I've fucked up so bad that I end up putting Equestria in danger. I didn't see Trixie getting shot by the elements for being a bitch both time she came to Ponyville.
>>12357 >Spike was obviously willing in Boast Busters. He also wasn't the only test subject, and she performed the tests on the street where accidents could--and did--happen. >As for Lesson Zero, aside from being the weakest episode of season 2 Now there's a hot take. In a season that included "The Mysterious Mare-do-well," "The Last Roundup," "Dragon Quest," and "A Canterlot Wedding" it takes a tremendously uncomon sense of taste to rank "Lesson Zero" anywhere near the top of that list. I love Season 2 for all of it's high points--the highest points in the series' run by my estimation--but there some stinkers mixed in with them. I mean, even the worst of them were nowhere near the same league as the unmitigated disasters from the following season, but at the time at least they seemed bad. >Twilight going out of her fucking mind can't exactly be counted as controlled magic experimentation can it? The want-it-need-it spell "works every time." Every time. Meaning that there were other times. Now that would have been a fun bit of backstory to see fleshed out. >the elements of harmony are based on Friendship Magic or Harmony Magic or whatever the fuck >or whatever the fuck Indeed. Magic in Equestria makes absolutly no sense. It is wildly inconsistent in all of its appearances, and it seemingly does--and does not do--anything that serves the narrative at the time. If Equestria--along with its nonsensical conception of magic--could be "real" in any sense it would have to be slaved to an overarcing narrative in order to function at all like it did on the show, like how "cartoon physics" work in "Who Framed Roger Rabit?" simply because it's funny. It's better to be immune to the narrative since magic is just whatever it needs to be.
>>12363 >He also wasn't the only test subject, and she performed the tests on the street where accidents could--and did--happen. Yes, but I don't consider a bonk on the head by a rock to be the same magnitude as brainwashing an entire town into liking an old doll >Now there's a hot take. In a season that included "The Mysterious Mare-do-well," "The Last Roundup," "Dragon Quest," and "A Canterlot Wedding" it takes a tremendously uncomon sense of taste to rank "Lesson Zero" anywhere near the top of that list. I love Season 2 for all of it's high points--the highest points in the series' run by my estimation--but there some stinkers mixed in with them. I mean, even the worst of them were nowhere near the same league as the unmitigated disasters from the following season, but at the time at least they seemed bad. Mainly a matter of opinion, and I should've phrased it better; one of the weakest episodes in Season 2. Though personally, I dislike it more than the other bad episodes for obvious reasons, that being the fact that I waifu Twilight and it portrays her as a fucking spastic instead of a levelheaded, somewhat sarcastic mare we all know her to be on every other episode of Seasons 1 and 2. "Dragon Quest" being an allegory for older people not liking little girls' toys was rather egregious (especially since it basically set up future seasons to mock the audience when they started noticing the declining quality of the show) and "The Last Roundup", one I rewatched rather recently is regarded poorly due to the cut out Derpy cameo, but I had no idea people took issue with the actual episode content. Was the plot that bad? As for "A Canterlot Wedding", I'm not actually sure I remember correctly how it was regarded upon release. I remember reactions being rather mixed on it, and I could see how it's seen as terrible since this would be about the third villain that overpowers Celestia, though I remember it being decently regarded for the introduction of Changelings, Chrysalis, and This Day Aria. I haven't seen that much hate for Cadence outside of a few people calling her a bad DeviantArt OC on occasion, either. Maybe hate's died down for that episode on recent years, but I'm not going to spend this whole thing discussing Season 2's quality. Also, disliking Lesson Zero is a hot take? That's quite a shock to me. I thought others disliked it at least somewhat. >The want-it-need-it spell "works every time." Every time. Meaning that there were other times. Now that would have been a fun bit of backstory to see fleshed out. There's no specific mentioned sample size, so it could have been simply twice. We're not sure of the context of use either (in which it could've been used on parasprites or timberwolves for example, in self defense or some other situation). It also opens a bit of a plothole; why didn't Twilight use such a spell on the Parasprites in "Swarm of the Century"? I recognize that this sort of plays into your statement that magic of Equestria being controlled by a narrative, but that'd be recognizing meta elements, which doesn't really seem right for a world that would be considered "real". If such a thing is true, could someone be determining every single event in the world happening at this very moment from a higher dimension than our's? Is our world simply a set of narratives, predetermined on what we'll do and say? Some would say no, since everyone and everything is largely unpredictable, and the sheer complexity of our universe would make such a feat impossible, unless these supposed higher beings possess omnipotence or a way to store such large amounts of information.
>Indeed. Magic in Equestria makes absolutly no sense. It is wildly inconsistent in all of its appearances, and it seemingly does--and does not do--anything that serves the narrative at the time. If Equestria--along with its nonsensical conception of magic--could be "real" in any sense it would have to be slaved to an overarching narrative in order to function at all like it did on the show, like how "cartoon physics" work in "Who Framed Roger Rabit?" simply because it's funny. It's better to be immune to the narrative since magic is just whatever it needs to be. To me, this seems to imply the opposite and bring up a similar, yet different possibility; that magic is an uncontrolled (yet controllable) force that can be harnessed through different spells created by magic users in Equestria. However, even uncontrolled forces have rules. The fact that unicorns need to study extensively on how to control their magic and do specific things with it is rather consistent across multiple seasons. True, the rules are rather loose, but there still exists some. If magic is controlled through how a user uses it, then it would be tied to the user's overall knowledge of it and spells that use its power, not some narrative. The magic system would not have to be tied to a plot or overarching narrative. If such a thing applied to our world, then many historical events would have changed to suit an obvious protagonist or villain, unless the rule is that every single character/person within the world can affect the plot, at which point it's no longer a plot and rather a series of events and outcomes determined by chance. If the entire universe, characters included, would be tethered to the events of the show and their portrayal within them should they really exist, then I wouldn't consider that real. Rather, it's just a sort of "puppet world" created by the show's writers contorting its strings. Everything would be predetermined. Free will would be nonexistent. No matter what I would do, nothing would change. Anything I would try to do would miraculously backfire to suit the writers' whims, at which point why be in Equestria at all without free will? Even resistance to the narrative could easily be circumvented and the universe itself could technically just trap you to keep you out of the narrative should it obey a writers' whims. No matter what, you would be fucked. I would be fucked. We would all be fucked if we went to an Equestria where a group of people determine everything that happens instead of pure chance or however events work in our world.
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>>12364 >it portrays her as a fucking spastic instead of a levelheaded, somewhat sarcastic mare we all know her to be on every other episode of Seasons 1 and 2. Twilight goes insane whenever the possibility of disappointing Celestia arises, and "Lesson Zero" was not the first instance where that personality trait was presented. "A Bird in the Hoof" was primarily about Twilight losing her shit after Fluttershy took Philomena, and "Swarm of the Century" ended with another town-destroying Twilight melt-down. Manic instability in regard to Celestia is a central aspect of Twilight's character, and it has been since her conception. >"Dragon Quest" being an allegory for older people not liking little girls' toys It was about toxic masculinity and teenage rebellion, which is largely why it sucked. Relatively and in the context of Season 2, that is. >Was the plot that bad? It was pretty damn bad. >As for "A Canterlot Wedding", I'm not actually sure I remember correctly how it was regarded upon release. It was--and probably still is--the most divisive episode of all time. At the time, it spilt the audience into two camps. A lot of folks absolutely loved it for the songs, the elaborate setting, the occasionally funny sequence where the changeling queen inspects the wedding preparations, Twilight unabashadly shaking her ass in Cadence's face, and the fun and unique design of the changelings. Then you have the contrary opinion. The contrary opinion is that "A Canterlot Wedding" was Fonze jumping the shark. It was the penny on the rainroad tracks that derailed the Friendship Express. It was the beginning of the catastropic modus operandi that would define subsequent seasons where all new elements presented on the show would simply be dumped on top of the narrative like so much refuse and never be given any purpose regardless of how much it breaks the established canon. Cadance and Shining Armor had absolutely no narrative reason to exist, and it was painfully obvious that their only purpose was to sell toys. Also, as cool as the changelings were, their evil scheme was complete nonsense (literally bugs on a windshield), and their defeat was a hand-wave with a magical deus ex machina, which leads right into the main topic of discussion--Equestrian magic is nonsensical. >Maybe hate's died down for that episode on recent years Other way around, I would say. It was much more popular when it first aired than it is now. >Also, disliking Lesson Zero is a hot take? That's quite a shock to me. I thought others disliked it at least somewhat. Hell no! Lesson Zero was a smash hit. I remember when it first aired, everyone was just excited for "Luna Eclipsed" to air and thought that "Lesson Zero," based on the description that was published, was going to just be some boring filler. Then Fluttershy snapped a bear's neck, and jaws hit the floor. It shocked the living piss out of us, because its tone was so wildly different from Season 1, and we were rolling by the time Twilight started going all Gollum in a puddle. It was far and away the funniest episode that had aired to that point, and the meme material just piled up by the time it was over. The best thing about it was that, despite the wild change in tone, it didn't actually break anything. Twilight losing her shit over Celestia was nothing new, Rarity wildly overreacting to every little thing was somewhat established, and Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash were not actually doing anything destructive. The only thing that changed significantly was that the season's story arc was established where all of the other little horse women started writing friendship lessons to Celestia, which was a welcome change. >If such a thing is true, could someone be determining every single event in the world happening at this very moment from a higher dimension than our's? Is our world simply a set of narratives, predetermined on what we'll do and say? That is getting into some Schroedinger's Box shit, and it fundamentally forms the basis of idealist philosophy. Time for go to work.
>Twilight goes insane whenever the possibility of disappointing Celestia arises, and "Lesson Zero" was not the first instance where that personality trait was presented. "A Bird in the Hoof" was primarily about Twilight losing her shit after Fluttershy took Philomena, and "Swarm of the Century" ended with another town-destroying Twilight melt-down. Manic instability in regard to Celestia is a central aspect of Twilight's character, and it has been since her conception. Can only really speak on "Swarm of the Century" since I haven't seen "A Bird in Hoof" in a while, but Twilight's breakdown in the earlier is rather brief and less thorough than in "Lesson Zero". Especially since it was resolved way quicker when she realized the idea of building another Ponyville within the time it would've taken Celestia to get there would be impossible. The problem is, Twilight losing her shit over Celestia is truly nothing new, but it never happened at the level Lesson Zero portrays it as, and destroying the town is arguably worse than missing one friendship lesson. The problem with the episode seems to be less with Twilight though and the fact her friends acting like duties to the god ruler of your country isn't quite literally the most important thing ever, but that's rather minor considering it was only one episode and even then only a part of it in order to facilitate the conflict of the episode. >Hell no! Lesson Zero was a smash hit I can see how people like it, but the episode itself doesn't make sense because the whole thing Lesson Zero was predicated on was literally demanded by the plot and not set up ANYTIME before this episode? How is this true, you ask? Well, never before has there ever been a mention of a *deadline* for friendship problems. It was literally made up for this episode and not only that, having a deadline for friendship problems makes absolutely no sense due to the episode's content proving that friendship problems don't happen over the span of a single day or week. All Celestia said in part 2 of the first episode is that she would report to her about friendship problems, never about it being every week. Also, the episode ended up being a poor man's version of "Party of One". Remember when Pinkie Pie went crazy because she thought her friends didn't like her? See how eerily similar that sounds to Twilight going crazy because her friends didn't help her? It doesn't help that both episodes were written by Meghan McCarthy Maybe the fact of how over the top and nonsensical it ended up being was the appeal, but compared to the other episodes, this one seemed much less grounded than the others and I think Party of One executed the concept much better since it was based on a misunderstanding rather than active apathy. The problem I have with it is the fact it overexaggerates everything, which might be why other people like it, but it's a point of contention for me considering it seems inconsistent with the grounded tone of the other episodes up to that point. Also, Twilight using the "Want It, Need It" spell was never brought up again by Celestia, which I think is strange. Just to make it clear My personal rating for the episode is a 7/10. Seemed off, but I managed to get a good amount of enjoyment from it despite its flaws.
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>>12364 >it portrays her as a fucking spastic instead of a levelheaded, somewhat sarcastic mare we all know her to be on every other episode of Seasons 1 and 2. >levelheaded, somewhat sarcastic mare Twilight is consistently depicted as being autistically attached to things going one way and reacting adversely at varying degrees if they don't. It's to the point of it being her central character flaw. Beyond the examples in >>12370 there is the time travel episode in season 2, the Pinkie sense episode in season 1 (pic related), and the sleepover episode in season 1 where she is so reliant on doing things by the book she looks for a chapter on a tree being in the house for a solution instead of thinking logically to resolve the situation. There are undoubtably more micro-examples I could dig for too. She does not outright freak out often, but she is ridged and only seems level headed most of the time because things are going the way she expects them to. As soon as they don't she has trouble coping.
>>12372 I still love her of course, just to clarify.
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>>12372 I'll admit I was wrong on that, Twilight can be a spastic when things don't go her way, but I feel the freak out like I mentioned in >>12371 was overexaggerated in that episode and then was attempted in later seasons to complete and utter failure. Did give us a few more meme faces though. It's the overexaggeration of her losing her shit that's the problem for me. The new writers in later seasons and greentext writers just went "Woah, she freaked out marginally this one time, let's make that happen every time everything goes slightly wrong in our stories for the funnies and set the precedent that she uses everything as a living experiment without consent!" when she's not like that at all. As usual it's later season writers' fault. Can't really hate the episode too much because it's just one episode where she completely broke down for comedy's sake. Still a poor man's Party of One though, and it only gives more reason to hate everything after Season 2 (though some episodes of season 3 could arguably be excused) >the Pinkie sense episode in season 1 (pic related) Honestly, her hyperfocusing on Pinkie is different in my opinion since it didn't lead to any breakdown. It was nowhere near "fucking spastic" status >and the sleepover episode in season 1 where she is so reliant on doing things by the book she looks for a chapter on a tree being in the house for a solution instead of thinking logically to resolve the situation. I found it rather hilarious about her non-reaction to having a tree stuck in the treebrary. She just sounds like she's had a mild inconvenience like her tea got spilled or something, and again, since she didn't get bent out of shape over it, I wouldn't exactly count it. What I meant by "fucking spastic" was a complete breakdown like in Lesson Zero and that terrible episode she had with Pinkie where all those other meme faces came from in the later seasons. It's worrying because the first time it happened she brainwashed an entire town. Hopefully though, considering she didn't let the spell affect her friends in that example, being with her means that you won't get pulled into her magic experiments unless it's in some advisory role. Remember, she's already got Spike as an assistant for this sort of thing.
>>12371 >Especially since it was resolved way quicker when she realized the idea of building another Ponyville within the time it would've taken Celestia to get there would be impossible. Don't forget that Twilight cast the spell that made the parasprites destroy the town. The damage from her little freak out--and magical experimentation!--was significantly worse in "Swarm of the Century" than it was in "Lesson Zero." In "A Bird in the Hoof," her panicing about Fluttershy taking Philomena was not anywhere near as destructive, but it was pretty loony. "She could banish you or lock you in a dungeon, or she could banish you and then lock you in a dungeon in the place that she banishes you to!" >The problem with the episode seems to be less with Twilight though and the fact her friends acting like duties to the god ruler of your country isn't quite literally the most important thing ever They immediately recognized that it was just Twilight getting worked up over some arbitrary standard that she set for herself. >Well, never before has there ever been a mention of a *deadline* for friendship problems. Twilight imagining up the deadline and forcing herself to conform to it was a bit of meta humor. On a meta level, it references the self-imposed stipulation that Twilight must learn a friendship lesson in every episode that all of Season 1 conformed to. The resolution of "Lesson Zero" was that any one of the characters could write reports to Celestia was the very same resolution that the writers found to their own entirely unnecessary standard. "Lesson Zero," on a meta level, is about the writers freeing themselves from the constraint of having Twilight write friendship lessons in every episode. It made sense for them to break from that convention, as it really had caused problems in the first season. In Season 1, Twilight had been shoehorned into episodes like "Green Isn't Your Color," "Call of the Cutie," and "The Showstoppers" for no better reason than that she had to write a damn friendship report every. Single. WEEK! >It doesn't help that both episodes were written by Meghan McCarthy McCarthy was the writer with the golden pen for the first couple seasons. I absolutely loved everything that she wrote right up until "A Canterlot Wedding." Her stories were always packed with layers of humor and subtext, and she was able to slip in a poignient moment into each episode that made the characters feel relatable for all of the silly cartoon shit that they would otherwise get up to. How the same writer who wrote the absolutely brilliant "Green Isn't Your Color" could also write the goofy-assed schlock that is "The Crystal Empire" I do not understand. >Maybe the fact of how over the top and nonsensical it ended up being was the appeal It was the shock value as well as the bottomless pit of memes that emerged from it.
>>12375 >Don't forget that Twilight cast the spell that made the parasprites destroy the town. The damage from her little freak out--and magical experimentation!--was significantly worse in "Swarm of the Century" than it was in "Lesson Zero." I'd say it's equal. One affected the town's infrastructure, the other affected the townsponies. >"She could banish you or lock you in a dungeon, or she could banish you and then lock you in a dungeon in the place that she banishes you to!" While a bit of an overreaction , you could least see how Twilight would come to that conclusion considering Celestia's history of dealing with villains as opposed to the baseless self-standard that apparently fueled Lesson Zero due to meta elements. >Twilight imagining up the deadline and forcing herself to conform to it was a bit of meta humor. On a meta level, it references the self-imposed stipulation that Twilight must learn a friendship lesson in every episode that all of Season 1 conformed to. The resolution of "Lesson Zero" was that any one of the characters could write reports to Celestia was the very same resolution that the writers found to their own entirely unnecessary standard. "Lesson Zero," on a meta level, is about the writers freeing themselves from the constraint of having Twilight write friendship lessons in every episode. A bit of a wacky way to go about introducing other characters into friendship lessons, but I can see the point. The only problem I would have with meta being brought in and the episode's goal is the fact that later season writers used it as a pass to introduce the Cutie Map to avoid having to set up their episodes. >McCarthy was the writer with the golden pen for the first couple seasons. I absolutely loved everything that she wrote right up until "A Canterlot Wedding." Her stories were always packed with layers of humor and subtext, and she was able to slip in a poignient moment into each episode that made the characters feel relatable for all of the silly cartoon shit that they would otherwise get up to. Oh no, I wasn't implying that Meghan McCarthy was a bad writer or anything, I was just saying it was basically a copy and paste of Party of One's modus operandi of having a character become mentally unstable as a result of their friends' action/inaction and that it could've been done better. This says little about her other work, which was for the most part much better. I just feel that making two very similar episodes for two different seasons is a bit lazy. >How the same writer who wrote the absolutely brilliant "Green Isn't Your Color" could also write the goofy-assed schlock that is "The Crystal Empire" I do not understand. There's a big difference between writer a self-contained story set in Ponyville and a plot important story set in a completely different place from Equestria. Basically what I'm saying is that McCarthy was out of her element on this one. Realistically, they should've assigned Larson to write the two-parter, since he did a good job with Return of Harmony. From this conversation, I think I can conclude all I hate about the episode is the effect it had on fan works and later seasons. The episode itself was actually pretty decent. However, I dislike the fact that it opened the floodgates for all this "magic experimentation on anyone and everyone" and "Obliviousness to her experimentee's pain" schlock when she's clearly not like that and understands that if magic experimentation would potentially hurt another pony/person, to not do it.
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I've stopped bothering to count the days at this point. Have another Twi
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>>12401 Counting is for eggheads anyway. Have raunchy/funny Twilights.
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Yet another Twi. I love this purple mare, hopefully if/when I make it to Equestria, she loves me too.
Name Twilight's top 3 favorite books.
>>12432 The Mare In the Moon, The Journal of the Two Sisters, and Inside Her Majesty's Boudoir: The Unauthorized Erotic Biography of Princess Celestia.
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>>12377 >>12375 >>12374 >>12372 >>12371 >>12370 >>12365 >>12364 >>12363 >>12357 >>12342 Not gonna open this discussion back up but I did find something relevant and relating to why Twilight's (and Ponk's but this isn't a ponk thread) character deteriorated over time So, I found a cheat sheet the writers used when writing the mane 6 on one of /mlp/'s most recent threads and it does not at all surprise me considering the episodes they used for reference when writing Twilight were Magical Mystery Cure (the most divisive episode in Season 3), Lesson Zero (which surely facilitated the repeating behavior of Twilight losing her shit all the time for little to reason), and S4's finale. I don't think they knew what they were doing. As a result, our poor purple smartest mare was slowly but surely flanderized and degraded as a character.
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>>12456 That is interesting, but I can't put much trust in the source. In fact, I am downright skeptical of the reference. It doesn't make sense to use music-heavy episodes like "Magical Mystery Cure" or "Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000" as character references. Applejack wasn't even the focal character in SSC6k, the Flim Flam Brothers and even Twilight being more prominent. Also, when was this supposedly made? Season Six was already in the books if the Starlight Glimmer episodes are any indication, and yet the author still thought that Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon were "worth revisiting?" Not buying it. This looks a lot more like someone's attempt to stir drama than it does something that was actually used by the late-era show writers.
>>12456 I wonder if Anons were asked, what would they choose as character reference. Which ones accurately portray their characters? It's a difficult choice to decide upon and I'm not entirely sure what I'd choose myself.
>>12463 I like episodes with conversations where all of the mane 6 get to bounce off of each other like "art of the dress". In that scene where Rarity is locked in her room and the others are trying to talk her out they all get a line in their correct personalities. The fundamental problem with picking a few episodes for reference is that the characters are deeper than that. Generally each episode places a strong focus on an individual aspect of each character involved (Because it's a cartoon exaggeration is completely OK, in fact it's the point), so if you are only using a few episodes as a reference it's going to skew the character out of proportion no matter what.
>>12459 NTA, but that's from the leaks far as I remember. >It doesn't make sense Yet they did it. Like they did lots of other shit. >Also, when was this supposedly made? Season Six was already in the books if the Starlight Glimmer episodes are any indication Given that it's referencing To Where and Back Again season 6 obviously have already aired. >This looks a lot more like someone's attempt to stir drama than it does something that was actually used by the late-era show writers. >inb4 "ackschually the leaks were fake!"
>>12467 Is there any reason whatsoever to believe that this is real? "It was posted on 4chan" doesn't fill me with confidence.
>>12468 Yeah, sure thing, buddy. Somebody forged up several gigabytes worth of fake emails; not just text files, email files in their specific format, with contact info of all the parties involved in the conversation and shit; simply to unjustly defame poor Big Jim (pubh) alongside with saints Mike and Josh. Also that someone forged up flash assets, sound files, rejected premises of the episodes with one of the leaked premises literally confirmed by M.A. Larson during the anniversary sticky, when he posted his draft of what Rarity Investigates should have been and it was the same file from the leaks.
>>12468 >>12459 Poster of the cheat sheet here. I didn't mention they were from the leaks since I thought it went without saying. If you're looking for a specific thread, it was the thread about the other 5 of the Mane 6 being friends before Twilight got there and the continuity errors in the later seasons. The leaks were brought up, and so it was posted there, and then I took it and reposted it here.
>>12469 What in the actual fuck are you even talking about? >>12470 What leaks? Did DHX drop more of Hasbro's shit or something?
>>12482 No, this was from the first time DHX dropped Hasbro's shit. This was actually used by later season writers and it really shows.
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>>12483 >No, this was from the first time DHX dropped Hasbro's shit. I only remember the designs for G5 being dropped. It's a pity. They looked better than what they actually used. >This was actually used by later season writers and it really shows. I wouldn't know. I didn't watch the later seasons.
>>12482 >What in the actual fuck are you even talking about? You would've known there were several leaks if you wouldn't have been a fucking tourist.
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>>12491 >I wouldn't know. I didn't watch the later seasons. Based. This thread has had a high text to Twiggles ratio so I'll balance it a little. Of course she would be proud of us for all this reading and writing.
>>12491 >I wouldn't know. I didn't watch the later seasons. Neither have I (outside of Amending Fences, because I've heard it was better than the rest), but even with the little I know of the later seasons, I can already tell they flanderized Ponk and Twilight.
>>12500 Pinkie had already gotten flandersized pretty badly in Season 2. She went from being an off-beat space cadet with insecurity issues in Season 1 to being a pink Daffy Duck who is super-duper best friends with absolutely everyone despite irritating the piss out of them in Season 2. I loved Season 2, but, damn, did it do Pinkie dirty. On the flip side, Fluttershy was just the worst in Season 1, but Season 2 turned her into the deepest character on the show.
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Stranded anon here. I tried to draw something today, then half-way through I remembered that I'm so bad that whatever I draw actually takes away my motivation. It's like seeing something so abhorrent you simply don't register it or you take a hit to your sanity. Oh well, I'll eventually find something I'm half-way decent at.
>>12521 Try to write instead.
>>12504 This pic makes me giggle.
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>>12521 No offense anon, but that is a mindset problem. Of course we all desire to make something beautiful - but the idea of beauty gets in the way of achieving the real thing. You may be able to see the metaphorical canterlot on the mountain in the distance, but the road ahead is long and rough. Focus on the little steps - don't lose hope every time you take a step that isn't on the palace gate!
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>>12549 I guess that's on me for thinking I can make good content with minimal practice. Though, it's hard to find the motivation in the first place. Honestly, purple smart is probably very disappointed in me. Can't even find a reason to get out of bed in the morning that isn't appreciating her or living long enough to get sent to Equestria.
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>>12521 Only one way to get better. Also, you don't have to be the best artist ever to produce something nice. There can be other qualities to the work, such as an amusing situation or scene. Could even adopt a simpler style and like a short comic or something.
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Still the same anon who posted all the other stranded posts. This time I actually nearly got physically stranded because of the recent hurricane. Purple smart was in my thoughts, I'll never take her for granted again.
>>12743 What's happened, anon? I hope you're safe.
>>12743 Stay safe Anon.

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